starsailor9774 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 So if you were in this situation and the judge decided to give a sentence of just 6 months because the offender was only 10 years old, you would sit back and accept it. I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself: I wouldn't want to have any input (other than the input of any other member of society) in to the level of punishment. Are you wiggy in disguise? :? So you'd value the life of your child at 6 months....... or whatever the judge told you it was worth....... Says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa_Rosa Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 The one thing on this thread that has astonished me more than the apparent desire of some to hang 10 year olds and to see justice meted out by murder victim's families, is the inability of the same people to comprehend Snowy's point despite him, and others who share it, making it perfectly clearly, time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Posted March 8, 2010 Author Share Posted March 8, 2010 Who has said they should have been hung at 10 years of age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa_Rosa Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Who has said they should have been hung at 10 years of age? Erm, it's basically what's been driving the thread for 15+ pages. hand on heart i would walk them to the gallows. Society has no place for these two individuals. Of course if i had my way, (snip) they would be swinging from the gallows about half hour after being convicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Death Sentences are the biggest hypocrisy going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 So you'd value the life of your child at 6 months....... or whatever the judge told you it was worth....... No, if I had a child I wouldn't value their life at 6 months. I'd be of the opinion that one couldn't assign a 'value' to his/her life; their life would be priceless. I'm rather of the opinion that one can't assign values to individual's lives (other than my own) and that's why I regard them as precious and not to be taken. Says it all really. Your idiotic assumption says much more about your lack of ability to comprehend what other people say and mean. Next time, engage your brain before posting, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starsailor9774 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 So you'd value the life of your child at 6 months....... or whatever the judge told you it was worth....... No, if I had a child I wouldn't value their life at 6 months. I'd be of the opinion that one couldn't assign a 'value' to his/her life; their life would be priceless. I'm rather of the opinion that one can't assign values to individual's lives (other than my own) and that's why I regard them as precious and not to be taken. Says it all really. Your idiotic assumption says much more about your lack of ability to comprehend what other people say and mean. Next time, engage your brain before posting, please. Was that a "Note to self" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myb Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Has there actually been any justification for why Bulger's mother has absolutely any right to be involved in this yet either? Because as far as I'm concerned, she shouldn't be any more than any other member of public as far as this is concerned, but she seems hell bent on involved when it's none of her business. I find that attitude completely heartless and quite patronising on Mrs Fergus. Her 4 year old sone was tortured and killed by 2 warped 10 year olds. She has every right to know every time they squat and take a shit if she so wishes; anything that brings her solace. As for previous posts suggesting that she was in some way at fault for taking her eye of the toddler, again disgraceful. Any self-respecting parent knows has suffered that absolute moment of panic when you have just for a second lost sight of a child - whether thats them wondering off or falling ovrt. She was just very, very unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Was that a "Note to self" ? No, it was a suggestion for you. Apologies if you have difficulty with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 No that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm here saying that people seem to underestimate the punishment they got. If you wished me to say whether I thought the punishment they got was fitting, then I would say yes it was. As 10 year old children they were given sentences that were to last until, at least, their adulthood, after which they were held on strict life licenses. I think that's quite a harsh punishment for a child, and fitting of the crime. But that's largely because I believe our justice system is pretty good, and also because I don't believe in the death penalty for any one let alone children. Well obviously the strict life licence business hasn't worked or he wouldn't have ended up in back in prison. After reading many post's from you on varying subjects, from child abusers to murderers.... I can only take away one thing from them, and that is you are an apologist for those who commit the most heinous crimes. you try to say it's people like me, who want to bring back hanging who are the problem with society. Take a long hard look in the mirror, you'll see the real problem staring right back at you. I read this entire thread and out of all the posts, this is one I can understand the least. Where has Chindie, or anyone else for that matter, said that what Bulger's killers did was okay? Hanging 10 year old children is outrageous, regardless of what they have done. It's barbaric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 8, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8, 2010 No that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm here saying that people seem to underestimate the punishment they got. If you wished me to say whether I thought the punishment they got was fitting, then I would say yes it was. As 10 year old children they were given sentences that were to last until, at least, their adulthood, after which they were held on strict life licenses. I think that's quite a harsh punishment for a child, and fitting of the crime. But that's largely because I believe our justice system is pretty good, and also because I don't believe in the death penalty for any one let alone children. Well obviously the strict life licence business hasn't worked or he wouldn't have ended up in back in prison. After reading many post's from you on varying subjects, from child abusers to murderers.... I can only take away one thing from them, and that is you are an apologist for those who commit the most heinous crimes. you try to say it's people like me, who want to bring back hanging who are the problem with society. Take a long hard look in the mirror, you'll see the real problem staring right back at you. I read this entire thread and out of all the posts, this is one I can understand the least. Where has Chindie, or anyone else for that matter, said that what Bulger's killers did was okay? Hanging 10 year old children is outrageous, regardless of what they have done. It's barbaric. Agreed. People seem to be understanding "I don't think the 2 children should have been hanged" as "I think murdering toddlers is ok" which is quite obviously not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starsailor9774 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Was that a "Note to self" ? No, it was a suggestion for you. Apologies if you have difficulty with it. You really need to take your own advice then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa_Rosa Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 If I had my way shit ripostes would be a hanging offence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 If I had my way shit ripostes would be a hanging offence This. Although I'd probably let 10 year olds off for that too, I probably came up with those sort of replies when I was about that age. How old are you starsailor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starsailor9774 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 If I had my way shit ripostes would be a hanging offence This. Although I'd probably let 10 year olds off for that too, I probably came up with those sort of replies when I was about that age. How old are you starsailor? Old enough to know certain VT-ers are apologists for scum like Venables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa_Rosa Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 If I were to make accusations like that, I'd firstly have the balls to name the VT'ers in question, and then provide a quote to back it up. Unless of course you're still clinging to the notion that just because someone doesn't want to see a ten year old executed, they condone him taking a child's life. It can't be that though surely, as that has been exposed as a ridiculous argument several times already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starsailor9774 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 If I were to make accusations like that, I'd firstly have the balls to name the VT'ers in question, and then provide a quote to back it up. Unless of course you're still clinging to the notion that just because someone doesn't want to see a ten year old executed, they condone him taking a child's life. It can't be that though surely, as that has been exposed as a ridiculous argument several times already. I said a few pages back..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Old enough to know certain VT-ers are apologists for scum like Venables. I said a few pages back..... Actually, you accused one person of being that. Your post above says VT'ers[sic]. Care to expound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starsailor9774 Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Old enough to know certain VT-ers are apologists for scum like Venables. I said a few pages back..... Actually, you accused one person of being that. Your post above says VT'ers[sic]. Care to expound? Have a guess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Care to expound? Have a guess.... :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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