birdman Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 hours ago, MaVilla said: any links to watkins comments?, vid? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted April 6 VT Supporter Share Posted April 6 13 minutes ago, birdman said: Must be reading my posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 10 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: Going back to where it feels like it started with Macheda in 2010 (*Edit Turns out i hadn't gone back far enough for the other Macheda 3-2 game in 2009 but that wasn't a 2 goal lead anyway) 2023/24 - Utd 2-3 & Brentford 3-3 14 times we have failed to win from being 2 goals up against recovering from 2 down 5 times. 6 Games Lost & 0 Won Pretty sure we won vs Luton recently after being up 2, conceding twice then Digne winner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 14 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: Going back to where it feels like it started with Macheda in 2010 (*Edit Turns out i hadn't gone back far enough for the other Macheda 3-2 game in 2009 but that wasn't a 2 goal lead anyway) 2023/24 - Utd 2-3 & Brentford 3-3 2021/22 - City 2-3, Wolves 2-3 & Leeds* 3-3 (3-1 up) 2018/19 - Preston 3-3, Leeds 2-3 Reversals - Forest 5-5, Hull 2-2 & Sheff Utd 3-3 2017/18 - Sheff Utd 2-2 2015/16 - Leicester 2-3 2013/14 - Liverpool 2-2 Reversal - West Brom 2-2 2012/13 - West Brom 2-2, Utd 2-3 & Everton* 3-3 (3-1 up) 2011/12 Reversal - QPR 2-2 2010/11 - Utd 2-2 14 times we have failed to win from being 2 goals up against recovering from 2 down 5 times. 6 Games Lost & 0 Won The most startling thing about this is the amount we’ve lost from 2 goals up but then absolutely no wins from 2 goals down. The most recent instance I can think of us winning from two goals down was Southampton away in 2005. Can anyone recall this happening more recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, Wainy316 said: The most startling thing about this is the amount we’ve lost from 2 goals up but then absolutely no wins from 2 goals down. The most recent instance I can think of us winning from two goals down was Southampton away in 2005. Can anyone recall this happening more recently? Looks like i missed one of the West Brom games that we actually won in my original list. As far as i can see after going back through every PL season this every game that we have been 2 down in and ended up winning. 98/99 Arsenal 3-2 99/00 Spurs 4-2 00/01 Coventry 3-2 04/05 Southampton 3-2 13/14 West Brom 4-3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 17 hours ago, Mantis said: Think there may be some crossed wires here. I wasn't saying we're bad at holding onto 2-0 leads, and especially this season we've been on the whole very good. My point was that the number of times we have been 2-0 up and thrown it away in the Premier League era does seem rather high. What's certain is no one has done it v one opponent as we have v Man. United in the last 30 years. Chelsea threw away a 2-0 lead to them and still found a way to win that (somehow) in a way we just can't against them when the momentum swings all in their favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 06/04/2024 at 17:24, Rodders said: Watkins calling out in the post match again. Rightly so. Kind of thing which will motivate him to leave if we keep doing it. Doesn't want to keep playing with losers and bottlers. We're a very insecure side incapable of learning. That might seem a bit harsh....and I am not going to agree with it. but I must confess, this team at times, is playing in to the hands of those who think we are. Thank god, Ollie showed the necessary aggression and talent, to bail us out, from an embarrassing result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Welp, Time to update the list.... 2023/24 - Utd 2-3, Brentford 3-3 & Chelsea 2-2 2021/22 - City 2-3, Wolves 2-3 & Leeds* 3-3 (3-1 up) 2018/19 - Preston 3-3, Leeds 2-3 2017/18 - Sheff Utd 2-2 2015/16 - Leicester 2-3 2013/14 - Liverpool 2-2 2012/13 - West Brom 2-2, Utd 2-3 & Everton* 3-3 (3-1 up) 2010/11 - Utd 2-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 Honestly the whole thing surrounding this this season is weird. We've gone 2-0 up and not won thrice this season, yet we're having our best season in decades. Furthermore, all of the 7 points we've dropped from winning positions (a very low total compared to most teams) have been from two goals up. Not once have we gone only a goal up this season and not won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Updated list to keep things current & it has been a while since we had one the other way around 2023/24 - Utd 2-3 & Brentford 3-3 & Chelsea 2-2 Reversal - Liverpool 3-3 (3-1 Down) 2021/22 - City 2-3, Wolves 2-3 & Leeds* 3-3 (3-1 up) 2018/19 - Preston 3-3, Leeds 2-3 Reversals - Forest 5-5, Hull 2-2 & Sheff Utd 3-3 2017/18 - Sheff Utd 2-2 2015/16 - Leicester 2-3 2013/14 - Liverpool 2-2 Reversals - West Brom 2-2, West Brom 4-3 2012/13 - West Brom 2-2, Utd 2-3 & Everton* 3-3 (3-1 up) 2011/12 Reversal - QPR 2-2 2010/11 - Utd 2-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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