mjmooney Posted October 12, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2010 I still want to know if chavs consider themselves to be chavs. Every other tribe seems to have worn its badge with pride - teds, mods, rockers, hippies, skins, punks, rude boys, etc., etc. But I've never heard/seen "We are chavs". There were about 4 people at my school who would dress up like chavs on purpose (trackies with high white socks and trainers) I guess with the intention of trying to look 'ard and to be fair they did live on a commissioner's estate. Perhaps it's just a Manx thing.Yes, but did they actually refer to themselves as chavs? You just don't see "Chavs rool" on walls, do you?They'd have something to the effect of 'Chav and proud' on their Bebo/Facebook page if that is credible?That's what I mean. Every other yoof culture "names" itself. I'm not convinced that chavs actually think of themselves as chavs - perhaps because the term originated with other people, as an insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Berlin has the 2nd highest population of Turks in the world, making it Turkeys unofficial second city That's not true. You could say it has the second highest population of Turks in Europe and it might be true because Istanbul aside, Turkey is in Asia. Ankara is the capital of Turkey (mostly because we occupied Istanbul for so long after WW1) and the population of that is larger than the population of Berlin when you include all the German and other non Turkish people living there. Izmir is home to some 3.25m people. Berlin has a population of about 3.5m. I'm guessing here, but more Turkish people live in Izmir. They say there are about 250k Turks living within the city limits of Berlin and plenty more lving in the metropolitan area. There are at least 25 or 30 places in Turkey with larger populations than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomzep Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Berlin has the 2nd highest population of Turks in the world, making it Turkeys unofficial second city That's not true. You could say it has the second highest population of Turks in Europe and it might be true because Istanbul aside, Turkey is in Asia. Ankara is the capital of Turkey (mostly because we occupied Istanbul for so long after WW1) and the population of that is larger than the population of Berlin when you include all the German and other non Turkish people living there. Izmir is home to some 3.25m people. Berlin has a population of about 3.5m. I'm guessing here, but more Turkish people live in Izmir. They say there are about 250k Turks living within the city limits of Berlin and plenty more lving in the metropolitan area. There are at least 25 or 30 places in Turkey with larger populations than that. Youve done me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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theunderstudy Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Yeah but surely that means there are more Turks in Berlin (in Europe) than any other place in Europe SAVE Istanbul? Which is half in Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I got a Ricky Gervais DVD for my birthday - Is that useless trivia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I think it has to be interesting to be considered trivia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbojangles Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 ha ha good point rev. Will have a think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 12, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2010 I got a Ricky Gervais DVD for my birthday - Is that useless trivia?It's certainly a useless present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Well Chicago is supposed to have more polish people in the greater metro area than any city in Poland making it the worlds largest polish city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leviramsey Posted October 12, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted October 12, 2010 Well Chicago is supposed to have more polish people in the greater metro area than any city in Poland making it the worlds largest polish city. Even now, New York City, with c. 420k residents claiming Irish heritage, is close behind Dublin (500k-ish less 75k foreign-born = 425k-ish) in the largest Irish city race. It wasn't that long ago that there were more Irish in New York City than in Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderstudy Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Turning up at a Village fete which has boating activities dressed as aa Somali pirate does not go down very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Well Chicago is supposed to have more polish people in the greater metro area than any city in Poland making it the worlds largest polish city. Even now, New York City, with c. 420k residents claiming Irish heritage, is close behind Dublin (500k-ish less 75k foreign-born = 425k-ish) in the largest Irish city race. It wasn't that long ago that there were more Irish in New York City than in Ireland. A lot of those people are about as Irish as Andy Townsend and Mark Larwenson though, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 13, 2010 Moderator Share Posted October 13, 2010 A lot of those people are about as Irish as Andy Townsend and Mark Larwenson though, aren't they? Definitely, but you'd imagine there are others who are Irish and don't know it. So the numbers would in a sense correct themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 13, 2010 Moderator Share Posted October 13, 2010 Turning up at a Village fete which has boating activities dressed as aa Somali pirate does not go down very well.Is that like a black Johnny Depp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 13, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2010 A lot of those people are about as Irish as Andy Townsend and Mark Larwenson though, aren't they? Definitely, but you'd imagine there are others who are Irish and don't know it. So the numbers would in a sense correct themselves.IMHO, if they were born in the US, and they "don't know they're Irish", they ain't Irish. I know you can't just go by place of birth (people get born on holidays, etc.), but generally speaking, where you're born and raised is your nationality. My dad was Dublin born and bred, but I'm no more Irish than I am Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 A lot of those people are about as Irish as Andy Townsend and Mark Larwenson though, aren't they? Definitely, but you'd imagine there are others who are Irish and don't know it. So the numbers would in a sense correct themselves. That's unquantifiable, surely? It's something I just find odd, how people define who they are. Maybe it's just the in laws here or something, but I see people who's parents were both Indian but they were born here go to great lengths to point out that they are British, but hear about people in the States who have one Irish grandparent insist that they are not American. It's very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 13, 2010 Moderator Share Posted October 13, 2010 That's unquantifiable, surely? Well of course it is. I'm just saying that anyone in the total who shouldn't be there might reasonably be replaced (in some non-existant 'correct' figure) by someone who is not currently in it. That's all. It's not (it can't be) scientific. It's just a law of averages type dealy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted October 13, 2010 Moderator Share Posted October 13, 2010 A lot of those people are about as Irish as Andy Townsend and Mark Larwenson though, aren't they? Definitely, but you'd imagine there are others who are Irish and don't know it. So the numbers would in a sense correct themselves. IMHO, if they were born in the US, and they "don't know they're Irish", they ain't Irish. I know you can't just go by place of birth (people get born on holidays, etc.), but generally speaking, where you're born and raised is your nationality. My dad was Dublin born and bred, but I'm no more Irish than I am Japanese. Ah so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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