The 2023-24 (Finn Azaz) Loan Thread

[T-Dog]

These updates are superb, thank you

[Hornso]

Summary of Wednesday night - Crvena zvezda are champions (may have been confirmed last game!...shhh)

Kosta Nedeljkovic (FK Crvena zvezda) 1st/16th [Serbian Super Liga]
Away at Mladost (0-1) - Not in the squad (hip).

[useless]

Just seen Marschall is in goal for MK Dons, didn't play in the last leg. Nine appearances ten goals conceded including today so far, doesn't seem too bad, considering he only joined in Janaury, and missed around ten games through injury

[useless]

Well he ended up conceding five goals, not sure he could have done much about any of them though, some terrible defending from MK Dons' defeners, maybe second goal he could have done better, but Crawley striker was incredibly accurate with his shot, so I think was more a brilliant pinpoint shot than Marscahll's fault. Still not a great end to his loan.

Another take away is that Emre Tezgel looked very good when he came on for MK Dons, and playing for a team that were already well beat by then. Looking at his stats in League Two this season, he has three goals and three assists in 545 minuts of football, which is very good for a eighteen year old, surely will be part of Stoke's first team next season, presuming someone doesn't take him off them

[Hornso]

Summary of the weekend - Rare starts for Feeney & Marschall end in defeat

Leander Dendoncker (Napoli) 8th/20th [Serie A]
Home to Bologna (0-2) - Unused substitute.

Josh Feeney (Real Union) 15th/20th [Spanish Primera Federación]
Away at Ponferradina (2-1) - Substituted in the 86th minute [2-1].

Will face Crawley in the Playoff Semi-Finals.

Filip Marschall (MK Dons) 4th/24th [League Two]
Home to Crawley [Playoff SF 2nd leg] (1-5) - Played 90 minutes. 36 touches, 68% pass accuracy, 1 save. WhoScored.com rating of 4.87 / Sofascore.com rating of 5.5.

Eliminated.

Kosta Nedeljkovic (FK Crvena zvezda) 1st/16th [Serbian Super Liga]
Home to FK Radnicki 1923 (3-2) - Not in the squad (hip).

Tommi O'Reilly (Real Union) 15th/20th [Spanish Primera Federación]
Away at Ponferradina (2-1) - Unused substitute.

Morgan Sanson (Nice) 5th/18th [Ligue 1]
Home to Le Havre (1-0) - Substituted in the 74th minute [1-0]. 41 touches, 90.9% pass accuracy, 3 shots off target, 1 shot blocked, 3 key passes. WhoScored.com rating of 6.58 / Sofascore.com rating of 6.8.

Europe League qualification secured. Outside shot at 4th spot.

Oliver Zych (Puszcza Niepolomice) 15th/18th [Ekstraklasa]
Home to Warta Poznan (1-0) - Played 90 minutes. 34 touches, 53.6% pass accuracy, 1 save. Sofascore.com rating of 7.2

Four points above the relegation zone, 2 games to play.

Edited May 13 by Hornso

[Hornso]

On 12/05/2024 at 05:16, useless said:

Just seen Marschall is in goal for MK Dons, didn't play in the last leg. Nine appearances ten goals conceded including today so far, doesn't seem too bad, considering he only joined in Janaury, and missed around ten games through injury

The reviews I read on Twitter prior to him being replaced by Kelly were not nice.

[VillaJ100]

9 hours ago, Hornso said:

The reviews I read on Twitter prior to him being replaced by Kelly were not nice.

Seemed to do great at Gateshead? Lower level but brought them up from relegation to mid table

[East London Villa]

It will be interesting to see what Feeney and O'Reilly have picked up from their experience at Real Union. Obviously very little playing time but assume they've been training with the seniors every week (when fit) and having to properly fight for their place in the side. I wonder who we'll see go there next season.

If we let Olsen's contract expire and bump Gauci up to second choice, I think there's a chance we go with Zych as third choice next season. He's made a couple of high profile mistakes but has largely been very good in Poland, clear 1st choice for his team and starting every week. Sinisalo is ready for Championship level, or something similar abroad, so it would be a waste for him to sit in our reserves when he could increase significantly in value if he proves himself at the next level. Marschall really needs another successful loan to get back on track. Wright has trained a lot with the first team and performed well for the U21s, now he needs his first loan experience.

[HanoiVillan]

14 hours ago, Hornso said:

The reviews I read on Twitter prior to him being replaced by Kelly were not nice.

The highlights are here:

Safe to say he did not cover himself in glory here, especially the first two goals, there should be no chance of either going in and in both cases it's because his starting position is way off. 

[Hornso]

Summary of Monday Night - Coutinho Cup Action Excitement!

Philippe Coutinho (Al-Duhail) 6th/12th [Qatar Stars]
Home to Al-Arabi [Amir Cup QF] (3-2) - Substituted in the 81st minute [3-2]. Scored.

[useless]

Second year scholar Dylan Mitchell who has been on loan at Alverchurch this season has been released

[Hornso]

Summary of the weekend - Kosta sighting (but misses Cup Final victory)!

Philippe Coutinho (Al-Duhail) 6th/12th [Qatar Stars]
Home to Al-Sadd [Amir Cup SF] (0-1) - Substituted in the 78th minute [0-1].

Leander Dendoncker (Napoli) 10th/20th [Serie A]
Home to Bologna (0-2) - Unused substitute.

Josh Feeney (Real Union) 13th/20th [Spanish Primera Federación]
Home to Fuenlabrada  (2-1) - Substituted in the 79th minute [1-1].

Two points above the relegation zone with one game remaining.

Kosta Nedeljkovic (FK Crvena zvezda) 1st/16th [Serbian Super Liga]
Away at Napredak (0-4) - Came on in the 62nd minute. 16 touches, 100% pass accuracy. WhoScored.com rating of 6.7.
Versus Vojvodina [Serbian Cup Final] (2-1) - Not in the squad.

Tommi O'Reilly (Real Union) 13th/20th [Spanish Primera Federación]
Home to Fuenlabrada  (2-1) - Unused substitute.

Morgan Sanson (Nice) 5th/18th [Ligue 1]
Home to PSG (1-2) - Substituted in the 68th minute [1-2]. 33 touches, 90.5% pass accuracy, 1 shot off target, 1 key pass. WhoScored.com rating of 6.05 / Sofascore.com rating of 6.4.
Away at Lille (2-2) - Not in the squad.

Will play Europa League next year. Permanent moved confirmed.

Oliver Zych (Puszcza Niepolomice) 15th/18th [Ekstraklasa]
Away at Gornik (1-1) - Played 90 minutes. 27 touches, 52.9% pass accuracy, 3 saves. Sofascore.com rating of 7.1.

Two points above the relegation zone, 1 game to play.

Edited May 22 by Hornso

[Hornso]

Summary of the weekend - Real Union & Puszcza Niepolomice survive on the final day

Leander Dendoncker (Napoli) 10th/20th [Serie A]
Home to Lecce (0-0) - Not in the squad.

Josh Feeney (Real Union) 15th/20th [Spanish Primera Federación]
Away at Deportivo (3-1) - Substituted in the 69th minute [2-0]. Booked.

Survive by one point.

Kosta Nedeljkovic (FK Crvena zvezda) 1st/16th [Serbian Super Liga]
Home to Cukaricki (4-1) - Came on in the 59th minute. 17 touches, 100% pass accuracy, 2 key passes. WhoScored.com rating of 6.8.

Tommi O'Reilly (Real Union) 15th/20th [Spanish Primera Federación]
Away at Deportivo (3-1) - Unused substitute.

Oliver Zych (Puszcza Niepolomice) 12th/18th [Ekstraklasa]
Home to Piast (1-0) - Played 90 minutes. 31 touches, 50% pass accuracy, 6 saves. Sofascore.com rating of 8.3.

Survive by three points.

Edited Tuesday at 09:39 by Hornso

[MrBlack]

6 hours ago, Hornso said:

Summary of the weekend - Real Union & Puszcza Niepolomice survive on the final day

Leander Dendoncker (Napoli) 10th/20th [Serie A]
Home to Lecce (0-0) - Not in the squad.

Josh Feeney (Real Union) 15th/20th [Spanish Primera Federación]
Away at Deportivo (3-1) - Substituted in the 69th minute [2-0]. Booked.

Survive by one point.

Kosta Nedeljkovic (FK Crvena zvezda) 1st/16th [Serbian Super Liga]
Home to Cukaricki (4-1) - Came on in the 59th minute. 17 touches, 100% pass accuracy, 2 key passes. WhoScored.com rating of 6.8.

Tommi O'Reilly (Real Union) 15th/20th [Spanish Primera Federación]
Away at Deportivo (3-1) - Substituted in the 69th minute [2-0]. Booked.

Oliver Zych (Puszcza Niepolomice) 12th/18th [Ekstraklasa]
Home to Piast (1-0) - Played 90 minutes. 31 touches, 50% pass accuracy, 6 saves. Sofascore.com rating of 8.3.

Survive by three points.

Is it weird that they didn't play Josh or Tommi for most of the year, then throw them both in to start the most crunch game of their season?

Great news that they survived. Maybe they'll get some more of our players next season and we'll find better fits for their team. 

[Hornso]

2 hours ago, MrBlack said:

Is it weird that they didn't play Josh or Tommi for most of the year, then throw them both in to start the most crunch game of their season?

Great news that they survived. Maybe they'll get some more of our players next season and we'll find better fits for their team. 

Apologies @MrBlack. I **** that one right up. Tommi was an unused substitute. Josh got a decent little run towards the end of the season which is good.

[Hornso]

Summary of the 2023-24 Loanees

Chisom Afoka (Bradford City) - Apps - 2(1), Min - 144, 0 goals, 0 assists, 1 yellow card, WhoScored.com rating of 6.19.
Finn Azaz (Plymouth) - Apps - 22(6), Min - 1847, 7 goals, 5 assists, 2 yellow cards, WhoScored.com rating of 7.03.
Louie Barry (Stockport) - Apps - 17(4), Min - 1382, 9 goals, 4 assists, 3 yellow cards, WhoScored.com rating of 7.04.
Lamare Bogarde (Bristol Rovers) - Apps - 10(8), Min - 955, 0 goals, 0 assists, 3 yellow cards, WhoScored.com rating of 6.44.
Ben Chrisene (Blackburn Rovers) - Apps - 7(9), Min - 815, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 cards, WhoScored.com rating of 6.46.
Philippe Coutinho (Al-Duhail) - Apps - 19(4), Min - 1,695, 8 goals, 3 assists, 0 cards, Sofascore.com rating of 7.31.
Leander Dendoncker (Napoli) - Apps - 0(3), Min - 21, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 cards, WhoScored.com rating of 6.12.
Josh Feeney (Real Union) - Apps - 5(3), Min - 432, 0 goals, 0 assists, 2 yellow cards.
Kaine Kesler-Hayden (Plymouth) - Apps - 21(6), Min - 1861, 0 goals, 2 assists, 4 yellow cards, WhoScored.com rating of 6.65.
Filip Marschall (MK Dons) - Apps - 7, Min - 630, 0 yellow cards, WhoScored.com rating of 6.09.
Kosta Nedeljkovic (FK Crvena zvezda) - Apps 0(2), Min - 59, 0 yellow cards, Sofascore.com rating of 6.75.
Tommi O''Reilly (Real Union) - Apps - 0(2), Min - 62, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 yellow cards.
Seb Revan (Rotherham) - Apps - 29(8), Min - 2821, 1 goal, 2 assists, 6 yellow cards, WhoScored.com rating of 6.43.
Rico Richards (Stockport) - Apps - 3(8), Min - 329, 1 goal, 0 assists, 0 cards, WhoScored.com rating of 6.52.
Morgan Sanson (Nice) - Apps - 26(5), Min - 1978, 2 goals, 3 assists, 4 yellow cards, WhoScored.com rating of 6.71.
Viljami Sinisalo (Exeter) - Apps - 50, Min - 4531, 0 goals, 0 assists, 4 yellow cards, WhoScored.com rating of 6.62.
Kerr Smith (St Johnstone) - Apps - 2(1), Min - 145, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 cards, WhoScored.com rating of 6.37.
Lino Sousa (Plymouth) - Apps - 3(5), Min - 267, 0 goals, 0 assists, 1 yellow card, WhoScored.com rating of 6.28.
Oliwier Zych (Puszcza Niepolomice) - Apps - 26, Min - 2340, 0 goals, 0 assists, 3 yellow cards, Sofascore.com rating of 7.17.

 

Apologies to Dylan Mitchell & Teddy Rowe. I don't have the time to go searching for non-league stats right now.

Thanks everyone for their contributions again. Let's do it all again in 2024-25!

[lexicon]

Feels like only yesterday I was thanking you for your efforts in last year's thread  

Great stuff again @Hornso, thanks for taking the time to do this. 

[Enda]

Lovely summary, @Hornso For my money, your posts are some of the best stuff on all of VT. Thank you for all the updates.

Sad to see that a number of players are going out on loan and not seeing many minutes. That doesn’t help anyone. I know it’s not fully under the control of the club, but it’s an area for improvement. Even if the likes of Afoka or Smith don’t make it at the highest level, going to a club where they get minutes makes it more likely we get a fee for them like we did with Azaz. You’d imagine we’d get good money for the likes of Sinisalo.

[_AA_786]

Excellent work @Hornso 

Out of interest, we previously had Jedinak as a Loans manager who would supposedly oversee how players were doing and move them to other clubs if they weren't playing. Do we have anyone doing that now?  Goalkeepers aside, there does seem quite a few who barely played. That could be that they went to too high a level of football to get into the team or they just underperformed compared to others in training, it's hard to say.

[Hornso]

Thanks for the kind words. Got a bit sloppy towards the end of the season. Need to tighten up again after an off-season on the beach or in my case, hiding away from the cold.

13 hours ago, _AA_786 said:

Excellent work @Hornso 

Out of interest, we previously had Jedinak as a Loans manager who would supposedly oversee how players were doing and move them to other clubs if they weren't playing. Do we have anyone doing that now?  Goalkeepers aside, there does seem quite a few who barely played. That could be that they went to too high a level of football to get into the team or they just underperformed compared to others in training, it's hard to say.

I had a look in January and at the time we had Adam Henshall as our Head of Emerging Talents & Loans, who has been in the role since March 2021. Jedinak was underneath him in the role of Loan Manager. Jedi was replaced by Tony Carss who was our U21s manager for the 2022-23 season and prior to that was Blackburn's Head of Academy Coaching for five years. Something to keep an eye on as to whether there is any staff changes in the off-season also.