Popular Post BOF Posted June 9, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2023 Slightly tongue in cheek thread title, but it's purely numbers-based, I promise. So now [drum roll] the thing literally none of you were waiting for... The best referee of the season in an Aston Villa league game Based on YOUR votes in the 38 "Ratings & Reactions" post-match threads this season. Where a vote for :V Good = 5 points Good = 4 Average = 3 Poor = 2 V Poor = 1 point Based on the 7,941 votes that have been cast on the site as of 09/06/23 @ ~14:00BST. Your winners are: Graham Scott with an average of 3.61 out of 5 has the highest average rating over all referees, albeit his 'average' is for a solitary refereeing performance in our 2-1 win over Leicester City in April. Darren England with 3.87 wins the individual match award with his refereeing of our 4-0 thrashing of Brentford back in October. He also finishes second in the average of referees with 3.32, just let down by his display in our 4-2 defeat to Leicester in Feb. Honourable mention to John Brooks with 2 performances inside the top 5 and a 3rd place finish overall. Picking up the wooden spoon is Simon Hooper with 2.14 for his 2 performances against Arsenal at home (2.46 in a 4-2 loss) and Man City at home (1.81 in a 1-1 draw). Looks like his marks probably came down for favouring top 4 sides with his decisions. The individual performance wooden spoon goes to Peter Bankes with an atrocious average mark of 1.76 out of 5 for his handling of our 2-1 victory at home over Spurs in gameweek 36. Full table of beautiful data below. Well done, and give yourselves a round of applause 18 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Complete ignorance from my side on this, I had no idea this many referees had taken charge of our games and it seems a relatively even split across the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Only 71 people voted on the refereeing performance in a game where we had a player incorrectly sent off following viewing the incident on the screen that couldn’t accurately show the incident and said red card was subsequently overturned (Michael Oliver, Fulham). Admittedly it was Gerrards last game so we had more to talk about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Can't play the game without them so a class thread to have. Feels like standards is low but there is some rules that are annoying to us fans and a change to them might help the refs reputations. Handball rule and not waving for offside until 5 minutes later especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 My man @tomsky_11 has a raging semi at this sort of stat-work and spreadsheeting 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 9, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted June 9, 2023 I just wanted to crunch the numbers really, and see if there was much of a spread across the performances or whether VT posters tend to just auto-click their own personal favourite mark for all referees. I also wanted to see how much the match result influenced the mark we gave to the officiating crew. I suspected we would be far more generous after a victory than after a defeat, and there is definitely an element of that. But it's certainly not a direct relationship between the 2. Credit to our posters, they're not against giving positive marks in a defeat and vice versa if the referee's performance calls for it. I've only just implemented this and I'll obviously be carrying it on into next season where I'll probably give it 3 or 4 days after each match before I take down the votes. Gotta give people the chance to digest everything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, BOF said: I just wanted to crunch the numbers really, and see if there was much of a spread across the performances or whether VT posters tend to just auto-click their own personal favourite mark for all referees. I also wanted to see how much the match result influenced the mark we gave to the officiating crew. I suspected we would be far more generous after a victory than after a defeat, and there is definitely an element of that. But it's certainly not a direct relationship between the 2. Credit to our posters, they're not against giving positive marks in a defeat and vice versa if the referee's performance calls for it. I've only just implemented this and I'll obviously be carrying it on into next season where I'll probably give it 3 or 4 days after each match before I take down the votes. Gotta give people the chance to digest everything It would be nice to have a constant that could be applied to a referee's score for a game in the case of a loss to allow for that element of bias. Off the top of my head the best way to do that would be to take the games where we've won and average the score the referees got (x), then take the games we lost and take the average score (y) and then x/y= v, which is the constant v then is multiplied by the score for each refereeing performance where we lost to try to account for that potential bias. Would that work? Did you do it a better more sophisticated way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 9, 2023 Author Moderator Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, YLN said: It would be nice to have a constant that could be applied to a referee's score for a game in the case of a loss to allow for that element of bias. Off the top of my head the best way to do that would be to take the games where we've won and average the score the referees got (x), then take the games we lost and take the average score (y) and then x/y= v, which is the constant v then is multiplied by the score for each refereeing performance where we lost to try to account for that potential bias. Would that work? Did you do it a better more sophisticated way? I've added no weights to it. It's just straight calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Give me the data! Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, lexicon said: My man @tomsky_11 has a raging semi at this sort of stat-work and spreadsheeting That and shitting on referees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Good work @BOF I genuinely have only heard of one of those referees (Oliver). I just have a blind spot when it comes to them now, which on a forum which is obsessed by officiating, seems a bit odd. I can name plenty of refs from the 90s and 00s though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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