ender4 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, BOF said: I think this thread will be relevant sooner than is ideal. In hindsight, ideal was probably just before pre season started! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Pissflaps said: Lambert 2.0 at villa. Potter would be insane to come to villa. We would ruin his career. The last Villa manager to go on to bigger and better things was Taylor over 30 years ago to the England job... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Poch won’t come. Potter would need a couple of seasons. I’d have a look at Brendan Rodgers. He can't be happy with the way things have gone behind the scenes at Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Mantis said: The one bit of ITK I have is at Brighton and my sense is that they'd fight tooth and nail to keep Potter, but that there's also a sense of inevitability that they'll lose him to a bigger club (or England) at some point. Brighton are harsh negotiators which is fair enough for them. We could realistically get Potter but would probably cost 15-20 million. He isnt going to throw a tantrum to leave either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BOF said: I don't see how we don't lose all 3. West Ham is quite a good game to judge I think. They've been a nightmare match up for us since we came back up. However they've just lost to a newly promoted team away like we have done (albeit missing a penalty and hitting woodwork a few times) and are integrating some new signings into the team. They also play away in Denmark on Thursday evening so will have to rotate the team a bit. There's a chance for us but will sum Gerrard's reign up if he just plays the usual midfield and Rice runs through it. If we lose that I can't see anything v Arsenal or Man. City so I can't see how he surivives five defeats out of six. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, KMitch said: The last Villa manager to go on to bigger and better things was Taylor over 30 years ago to the England job... Yup being villa manager kills careers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Best available managers currently out of work we should be looking at: Mauricio Pochettino - Probably not realistic, but we should absolutely contact him first. Best out of work manager in Europe. Rafa Benitez - A very controversial suggestion, considering his recent spell with Everton, but he's been successful just about everywhere he's been. Newcastle and Liverpool fans both absolutely adore him and his number 1 strength is organizing defensively. Marcelo Bielsa - Turned a mid-table Championship Leeds side into champions, then finished mid-table in the Prem before the magic wore off. Regardless of the Villa v Leeds rivalry recently, we should definitely consider him. Marco Rose - Didn't work out for him at Dortmund and I was surprised he wasn't given a bit more time than 1 season, but he was brilliant at Borussia Monchengladbach before that and has all the makings of being the next great German manager. Potter has been brilliant at Brighton and should also be someone we talk to, but I'm just highlighting that there are others out there who would instantly improve us and would be capable of pushing us into European contention. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, VillaChris said: West Ham is quite a good game to judge I think. They've been a nightmare match up for us since we came back up. However they've just lost to a newly promoted team away like we have done (albeit missing a penalty and hitting woodwork a few times) and are integrating some new signings into the team. They also play away in Denmark on Thursday evening so will have to rotate the team a bit. There's a chance for us but will sum Gerrard's reign up if he just plays the usual midfield and Rice runs through it. If we lose that I can't see anything v Arsenal or Man. City so I can't see how he surivives five defeats out of six. West Ham won the first leg3-1 not sure they have much to worry about in the 2nd leg. Didnt play any big players either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, KMitch said: Best available managers currently out of work we should be looking at: Mauricio Pochettino - Probably not realistic, but we should absolutely contact him first. Best out of work manager in Europe. Rafa Benitez - A very controversial suggestion, considering his recent spell with Everton, but he's been successful just about everywhere he's been. Newcastle and Liverpool fans both absolutely adore him and his number 1 strength is organizing defensively. Marcelo Bielsa - Turned a mid-table Championship Leeds side into champions, then finished mid-table in the Prem before the magic wore off. Regardless of the Villa v Leeds rivalry recently, we should definitely consider him. Marco Rose - Didn't work out for him at Dortmund and I was surprised he wasn't given a bit more time than 1 season, but he was brilliant at Borussia Monchengladbach before that and has all the makings of being the next great German manager. Potter has been brilliant at Brighton and should also be someone we talk to, but I'm just highlighting that there are others out there who would instantly improve us and would be capable of pushing us into European contention. Marco Rose is a really intriguing one there. Was a disappointing rather than terrible season at Dortmund so assume he didn't connect with the board. Jesse Marsch got sacked mid season at Leipzig but is doing o.k at Leeds so far. Rose would come in with defined style of play and would have good connections to up and coming european talent so I'd certainly give him an interview and see how he presents his vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I really hope our next appointment is foreign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Farlz said: I really hope our next appointment is foreign. I bet he speaks better English than Stevie regardless of nationality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I do fear for the next manager for taking the job of the media darling and peoples champion Stevie. They will be out to get him sacked immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trillvillan Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 A different shout then whats being mentioned - Thomas Frank? Would anyone have him? Would he even leave Brentford? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, trillvillan said: A different shout then whats being mentioned - Thomas Frank? Would anyone have him? Would he even leave Brentford? He's doing a great job but I'm unsure he can take us to the next level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trillvillan Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, messi11 said: He's doing a great job but I'm unsure he can take us to the next level You know the camp im in #PotterIn But I would throw Thomas Frank in there and interview him though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, messi11 said: He's doing a great job but I'm unsure he can take us to the next level Premier League survival? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I appreciate the ambition of wanting Poch but there's no way that's happening. He's deservedly elevated himself into being in the mix for elite clubs. Rose could be an interesting one, I watched quite a bit of his Mochengladbach team and he did great work there. Wasn't exactly bad at Dortmund either, the league went about as you'd expect considering Bayern's dominance but the performances were underwhelming elsewhere which didn't help his cause. Not many other obvious options out of work right now but it's not like we're realistically going to be getting rid of Gerrard in the immediate future. Whoever it is I just hope it's someone with proven coaching credentials at a level befitting the kind of ambition we're showing in the playing squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, KMitch said: Marcelo Bielsa - Turned a mid-table Championship Leeds side into champions, then finished mid-table in the Prem before the magic wore off. Regardless of the Villa v Leeds rivalry recently, we should definitely consider him. And thats a No from me...apart from the fact that our whole team would have no hamstrings left within a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Indigo said: I appreciate the ambition of wanting Poch but there's no way that's happening. He's deservedly elevated himself into being in the mix for elite clubs. Rose could be an interesting one, I watched quite a bit of his Mochengladbach team and he did great work there. Wasn't exactly bad at Dortmund either, the league went about as you'd expect considering Bayern's dominance but the performances were underwhelming elsewhere which didn't help his cause. Not many other obvious options out of work right now but it's not like we're realistically going to be getting rid of Gerrard in the immediate future. Whoever it is I just hope it's someone with proven coaching credentials at a level befitting the kind of ambition we're showing in the playing squad. Rose had a lot of injury problems at Dortmund last season too, and still got the club to finish where they were expected. He's my first choice, but is probably the least likely to come to Villa with Purslow heading up the interviews. Purslow's shortlist will probably be Potter, Vieira, and Scott Parker. Edited August 21, 2022 by KMitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, KMitch said: Best available managers currently out of work we should be looking at: Mauricio Pochettino - Probably not realistic, but we should absolutely contact him first. Best out of work manager in Europe. Rafa Benitez - A very controversial suggestion, considering his recent spell with Everton, but he's been successful just about everywhere he's been. Newcastle and Liverpool fans both absolutely adore him and his number 1 strength is organizing defensively. Marcelo Bielsa - Turned a mid-table Championship Leeds side into champions, then finished mid-table in the Prem before the magic wore off. Regardless of the Villa v Leeds rivalry recently, we should definitely consider him. Marco Rose - Didn't work out for him at Dortmund and I was surprised he wasn't given a bit more time than 1 season, but he was brilliant at Borussia Monchengladbach before that and has all the makings of being the next great German manager. Potter has been brilliant at Brighton and should also be someone we talk to, but I'm just highlighting that there are others out there who would instantly improve us and would be capable of pushing us into European contention. Bielsa would relegate us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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