villa4europe Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 That's about right We've got a problem at CB, LB, CM and striker Takes a look at a new RB and wide man, our 2 strongest positions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted October 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Whats the bet that he calls Colwill up for the next squad? Playing out of position for a shit Chelsea team and yet to be convince about this Colwill kid. its simply as if he plays for Fulham he would not get a look in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, HongKongVillan said: and yet to be convince about this Colwill kid. its simply as if he plays for Fulham he would not get a look in. Or even in a decent Brighton team last year... He's being played at LB which might give him an in for the England team as we should be looking at an alternative (with Chilwells fitness record and him obviously playing for Chelsea there ahead of Chilwell) but at CB he's simply not played enough games or shown anything Would be typical Southgate if he bangs the experience drum then calls up a kid with 23 PL games under his belt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, villa4europe said: Whats the bet that he calls Colwill up for the next squad? Playing out of position for a shit Chelsea team Wasn't Colwill in the last squad or am I confusing him with Guehi? He'd have been on Southgate's radar for playing 20 odd times for Brighton and now he's starting every week for Chelsea (albeit not actually at CB) so I wouldn't really begrudge that one especially with the LB issues (Shaw and Chilwell both out of the October games so really no idea which LB he's going to call up). Wonder if Portugal have actually ever contacted Konsa as beyond Dias they really don't have much depth at CB. Now Pepe has retired from NT they're callling up Toti Gomes from Wolves as one of the backups. Edited October 3, 2023 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, HongKongVillan said: and yet to be convince about this Colwill kid. its simply as if he plays for Fulham he would not get a look in. I don't know, he did call up Mitchell from Palace for some squads last season. He's steady but I always thought Rico Henry was better all round LB and should've got a chance at some stage in last 12 months. Guess it will be just something boring like Trippier playing LB and Colwill as cover and Southgate moaning endlessly about lack of English LBs playing in prem. He'll probably start playing Maguire there if Trippier picks up a knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted October 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: I don't know, he did call up Mitchell from Palace for some squads last season. He's steady but I always thought Rico Henry was better all round LB and should've got a chance at some stage in last 12 months. Guess it will be just something boring like Trippier playing LB and Colwill as cover and Southgate moaning endlessly about lack of English LBs playing in prem. He'll probably start playing Maguire there if Trippier picks up a knock. but this is it another of his fav club Palace, quite a few average players getting fast tracked once they hit some kind of form - Guehi, Mitchell (which i completely forgot he plays), Gallagher when he was on loan (i know being a chelsea boy also helps), Eze (i have no problem with), Sam Johnstone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 3 hours ago, VillaChris said: Wonder if Portugal have actually ever contacted Konsa as beyond Dias they really don't have much depth at CB. Now Pepe has retired from NT they're callling up Toti Gomes from Wolves as one of the backups. Yes, I think this is going to be driving some of the discussion among Southgate's team. It's not just Portugal, IIRC he's eligible for France and Angola as well (presumably the latter would hold little interest and I guess the former are probably stocked), but Portugal seems like a particular danger and he has the immediate example of Cash to show it can be fun to stop being English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Ollie who? IMmmmmason Mount on the other hand. Edited October 3, 2023 by Strog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Dodgyknees said: I think we will see Livramento and Gordon before we see Ramsey. Will probably see Cole Palmer and Curtis Jones before him too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, VillaChris said: Wasn't Colwill in the last squad or am I confusing him with Guehi? He'd have been on Southgate's radar for playing 20 odd times for Brighton and now he's starting every week for Chelsea (albeit not actually at CB) so I wouldn't really begrudge that one especially with the LB issues (Shaw and Chilwell both out of the October games so really no idea which LB he's going to call up). Wonder if Portugal have actually ever contacted Konsa as beyond Dias they really don't have much depth at CB. Now Pepe has retired from NT they're callling up Toti Gomes from Wolves as one of the backups. Pretty sure he was training with the first team although not sure he was officially in the squad Edit - just seen he was in the last squad Edited October 3, 2023 by villan95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Wasn't Colwill in the last squad or am I confusing him with Guehi? He'd have been on Southgate's radar for playing 20 odd times for Brighton and now he's starting every week for Chelsea (albeit not actually at CB) so I wouldn't really begrudge that one especially with the LB issues (Shaw and Chilwell both out of the October games so really no idea which LB he's going to call up). Wonder if Portugal have actually ever contacted Konsa as beyond Dias they really don't have much depth at CB. Now Pepe has retired from NT they're callling up Toti Gomes from Wolves as one of the backups. Agree about looking at him at LB, that makes sense and yeah he was in the last squad But again it's just him being a hypocrite isn't it? All this bollocks about experience and he calls up a guy with half a seasons worth? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: Agree about looking at him at LB, that makes sense and yeah he was in the last squad But again it's just him being a hypocrite isn't it? All this bollocks about experience and he calls up a guy with half a seasons worth? Yeah he's really gone past what's acceptable with his statements if he still keeps on calling up Phillips and Maguire for the next batch of games. Man. City put on Oscar Bobb ahead of Phillips at Wolves. And Maguire just warming the bench for months on end. He'll still be in the squad though. Phillps left out for one of the younger CMs in the prem (maybe Jones at Liverpool). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Yeah he's really gone past what's acceptable with his statements if he still keeps on calling up Phillips and Maguire for the next batch of games. Man. City put on Oscar Bobb ahead of Phillips at Wolves. And Maguire just warming the bench for months on end. He'll still be in the squad though. Phillps left out for one of the younger CMs in the prem (maybe Jones at Liverpool). Hold on, Oscar Bobb is actually a real name My new favourite player 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Hold on, Oscar Bobb is actually a real name My new favourite player Scandinavian aswell so get that poster up in your bedroom. "We think he is good enough" - National team picking Manchester City youngster early - Sport Witness Quote On September 2nd, Oscar Bobb made his first team debut for Manchester City when he came off the bench in their 5-1 victory over Fulham. Since then, the 20-year-old has made four more appearances, including one start in the Citizens’ 1-0 defeat to Newcastle United in the EFL Cup. His recent performances have helped him earn a first call-up from Norway for this month’s international break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) Going to try and predict the squad and see how close I can get to thinking like Southgate. Key requirements include: -Favouritism/stubborness -Playing (not really) for a 'top' club Pickford, Ramsdale, Johnstone Walker, Trippier, Maguire, Guehi, Tomori, Dunk Colwill, Mitchell Rice, Henderson, Phillips, Gallagher, Bellingham Saka, Foden, Maddison, Grealish Kane, Wilson, Rashford Possibilities: another RB, Joe Gomez, Dan Burn, Trent, JWP, Eze, Gordon, Nketiah and at a push Watkins. Edited October 4, 2023 by villan95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, villan95 said: Going to try and predict the squad and see how close I can get to thinking like Southgate. Key requirements include: -Favouritism/stubborness -Playing (not really) for a 'top' club Pickford, Ramsdale, Johnstone Walker, Trippier, Maguire, Guehi, Tomori, Dunk Colwill, Mitchell Rice, Henderson, Phillips, Gallagher, Bellingham Saka, Foden, Maddison, Grealish Kane, Wilson, Rashford Possibilities: another RB, Joe Gomez, Dan Burn, Trent, JWP, Eze, Gordon, Nketiah and at a push Watkins. Recall for Sterling another possibility 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 grealish hasnt done enough / fit enough to get a call up surely? don't think he's started a game for city since his injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, villa4europe said: grealish hasnt done enough / fit enough to get a call up surely? don't think he's started a game for city since his injury This is Southgate.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 No Toney .so its Wilson. No Stones so its Guehi No Saka so its Bowen. To be fair i really don't care about callups as he just plays the same players anyway . I would rather they trained with a manager that will improve them than a manager that won't. Southgates high end tactics or Emerys ? Didnt Konsa play under Southgate for the U21s ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, MWARLEY2 said: No Toney .so its Wilson. No Stones so its Guehi No Saka so its Bowen. To be fair i really don't care about callups as he just plays the same players anyway . I would rather they trained with a manager that will improve them than a manager that won't. Southgates high end tactics or Emerys ? Didnt Konsa play under Southgate for the U21s ? Southgate improved Grealish remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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