StanBalaban Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Social media has been blocked apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, villakram said: Jumping the gun a little with that... or you know something more than shooting and jets zooming about in Istanbul? edit: so reuters was running a headline saying attempted coup by part of military underway, per the prime minister... since deleted and said intern fired I guess. I'm not there mate, hence "appears". But PM quoted on Twitter as saying unauthorised military action occurring outside chain of command. in laymans terms that's a coup attempt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Awol said: I'm not there mate, hence "appears". But PM quoted on Twitter as saying unauthorised military action occurring outside chain of command. in laymans terms that's a coup attempt. Coups are never a good thing. Be interesting to know the what behind this though. Erdogan is an affront to Turkish history, threatening Atatürk's hard line on secularism every day. But enough for the military to turn on him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted July 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2016 WTF Main news sites report coup under way in Turkey? FB, Twitter closed down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Chindie said: Coups are never a good thing. Be interesting to know the what behind this though. Erdogan is an affront to Turkish history, threatening Atatürk's hard line on secularism every day. But enough for the military to turn on him? Erdogan has been playing US/NATO off against Russia, and nobody appreciated his shootdown. Plus, with what he's done to Turkish society, he's got more enemies than Cersei Lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Just now, Chindie said: Coups are never a good thing. Be interesting to know the what behind this though. Erdogan is an affront to Turkish history, threatening Atatürk's hard line on secularism every day. But enough for the military to turn on him? I flipping hope so, best news for a while if he's being turfed out. One of the wrongest wrong un's in a region full of them. Facebook, Twitter, YouTube all now blocked in Turkey. Mixed reports about state TV being on/off air. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted July 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2016 Turkish Army apparently reporting that have taken control 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I have a conference in Istanbul in 2 weeks. Be fun if it's still on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) I wonder have they got Erdogan as he was supposedly at his holiday villa... fingers crossed! edit: capitalized Villa out of habit... UTV! Edited July 15, 2016 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 They say that they taken over the government. Any guesses what they will do? Stay in power or announce new elections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted July 15, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) Erdogan is one of those politicians that you wouldn't be too disappointed to see Mussolini'd. But coups are always bad. You break the spell of democracy in an instant, and who knows what you get afterwards. If you're lucky, the army gives the country back. If you're not, generalissimo might have a golden toilet in his new pink desert palace before Christmas. Edited July 15, 2016 by Chindie 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, NoelVilla said: They say that they taken over the government. Any guesses what they will do? Stay in power or announce new elections? If they can carry it through then hopefully immediate ceasefire with the Kurds, settle things down, team up with US & Russia to get serious with ISIS in Syria. Not a coincidence Kerry was in Moscow a few days ago proposing an alliance in Syria. Erdogan a major obstacle to that - being an Islamist terrorist himself. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 We're all running on the assumption that it's the Secular NATO integrated classical branch of the army, but Erdogan has worked hard to insert lots of islamic muppets in there too, and a coup by that branch leading to a Turkish-Zia lead Pakistan like sharia country cannot be ruled out right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Chindie said: Erdogan is one of those politicians that you wouldn't be too disappointed to are Mussolini'd. But coups are always bad. You break the spell of democracy in an instant, and who knows what you get afterwards. If you're lucky, the army gives the country back. If you're not, generalissimo might have a golden toilet in his new pink desert palace before Christmas. The Turkish army always give the country back. As you rightly said in your first post, they are ironically the guardians of secular democracy who are occasionally forced to hit reset. If, IF this comes off, its bloody excellent news. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Chindie said: Erdogan is one of those politicians that you wouldn't be too disappointed to are Mussolini'd. This is a small hope. He cheated the elections some say so maybe it's not democracy fallen but instead might be reinstated. Im just trying to be a little positive here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted July 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Chindie said: Erdogan is one of those politicians that you wouldn't be too disappointed to are Mussolini'd. But coups are always bad. You break the spell of democracy in an instant, and who knows what you get afterwards. If you're lucky, the army gives the country back. If you're not, generalissimo might have a golden toilet in his new pink desert palace before Christmas. I agree in principle but IMO Erdogan, though elected is effectively a dictator bent on turning Turkey into an Islamic state while filling his families pockets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 They're saying planes can't land at the airport, they're having to circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 US reaction will be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chindie Posted July 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2016 There's video on twatter of tanks on the street, jets flying very **** low over cities and helicopters firing at something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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