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Cheers Laura - Since sunday when they had 10 available, they now have 8. And on refreshing my browser this evening, having left the pc on with the product in a browsing window, it's dropped 3p today - So it's clearly trying to tempt me.... 3p suggests as being such an odd figure that Amazon is collecting my browsing habits rather than reacting to stock level generally. Thats got to leave the High St for dead. Theonly issue I have is, that when we are all buying on Amazon, and the High St is dead - who will be working to afford Amazon products, and how will we know what there is to buy as there willbe no more shops? So If I order tonight, are the chances this "Black Friday" (who is no longer represented by the Mayor of Kildare?) will drop the price further, and tomorrow after I've paid, it's £150 or something? Or can you see in advance what the BF offers are?

See, I've beentoying with a Gaggia Classic expresso coffee maker. I first looked a few daysago, and the site was advertisingat £188 (down from rrp of £306). Now, every day I log in, the price has dropped a little bit further. First it came down to £184.99, and now Amazon are offering it for £175! Does everyone else logging in see the price I see, or do the cookies remeber, and tell Amazon I am still browsing the same item, and drop the price according to some algorithm, to tempt me? If I keep logging in, will it get cheaper still? Or more expensive, if say, a few sell over the next day or so and so stock levels are lower?

Theres a beta test weekend coming up - see the usual game sites for codes. I've applied and think I have one in the bag.

Has this thread not been retitled "Could a literal believer in the bible hold an infinate amount of total bollocks in their heads?" yet?

Oh, god, arguing with a creationist is like arguing with a pig. (Lifted liberally from from Sir C G Krulak). forgive me for preparing to get dirty...... If you believe in the written word of the bible (heaven help us, quite literally!) can I ask why? I don't mean in terms of your beliefs, but what is it about the King James Bible written in er, 1644ad, that you find specifically convincing, over say, the other versions written previously. Given that the bible only contains iro 66 ish books, and I presume you include the Old Testament including Leviticus (and we can address THAT later, do you acknowledge that when the early christian church sat down to compile a "New Testament" "bible the council of Rome considered, and ejected something in the order of 350 other scripts, such as the Book of Enoch, and as such, the NT is not "the word of God" but a hugely edited and redrafted work of a comittee, 350 years after Jesus died. Given that printing was almost unheard of, and frankly, they didn't even have Amstrad Word Processors it was so long ago, and so much was "passed down" orally from generation do you think the "word of God" is credibly the final draft of King James 1300 years after the committee, and nearly 1700 years after Jesus was crucified? Or is the Bible a work of man,written and edited by man, to reflect stories of wise men who wrote often many years after the event? (and God help me for getting dragged into this brainwashed nutters delusions). Oh, and one passing thought. If you had been born to Asian parents, in say, a poor part of Pakistan, or of poor parents in Thsiland, do you think you would still be a Christian, or might it credibly be your European upbringing that "introduced" you to Christinity? Is your faith nothing but a quirk of Geography? Do you really believe your choice is through free will, and did you "investigate"other faiths before deciding on GodMk II (Jews, are God MkI and Muslims God MkIII)? And tell us your thoughts on Leviticus. Particularly the Shellfish thing. I'd love to hear you explain that. I mean, in fairness, at the Galilee docks circa BC500, sure they didn't have much in terms of refrigeration, so Shellfish out of season might have been a bit dodgy, but you'd eat a prawn cracker, if we went out for a Chinese, wouldn't you? I mean, I can see that women who menstruate are unclean, so we have something in common, but theres some pretty funky advice about buying slaves in there I find is always useful. Do you have many slaves yourself? (You *DO* Believe in slaves, as its in theBible?) I have one, who's an unchase daughter of a Priest, so I expect I shall have to kill her soon. Thats a shame, she's got a cracking pair on her.... Must go, I have animals to burn to anoint the Lord with their sweet smell. I suppose thats why he gave us Foot and Mouth in his wisdom.

A couple of my wow guild have beta invites. I'lltry to let you know what they think...

Anyone tried this? It'sa free game, and certainly playable as such, although like many free games, there are certain things you can buy with cold hard cash. Its a tank simulator, with pvp battlegrounds. I am finding it pretty enjoyable to play. You find as you get more experience you earn xp, which with in game earned gold, you can "spend" upgrading the tank you have, and then buying a better one. I am finding it fun, for free. Theres two other similar games coming out, world of battleships, and world of warplanes, which will be similar.

Scam. I get them all the time, but when I initially started playing the game, I used email x. When the accounts changed to battlenet accounts, I changed my email address to y. As far as Blizzard is concerned, my address, in the billing info is y. But my old address of x gets at least 3 of these type emails a week.

I think it's everything else about U2 that so naffs people off. They are fantastically tax efficient, whilst moaning at Govt's who spend our tax money, that they don't do it to suit their agenda. Still, it's easy to moan about poverty when you own collectively more castles than I do shoes.

I think critical analysis would suggest you were wrong. The guitarist alone, was, in fact, very very very good indeed. That you didn't llike them does not diminish their quality. From todays perspective, it might be hard to see what the fuss was about, and yes, the gross over hyping didn't help.Me, I too was meh about them, til I actually listened to the first album, properly. There are many bands who's singer cannot "conventionally" sing, indeed, the same allegations appear with regrettable frequency every decade. Indeed,you grandparents were saying the same about Frank sinatra. But the style,the groove of the Roses,fitted perfectly into that mid to late 80's. It's easy to say they sound like the Byrds, but thats lazy, from people who haven't actually really listened to much Byrds, and only know the early Dylan lyriced output.

If it makes her happy, then whats the issue?

don't know if anyone saw recenly that Aston Martin were voted by some mysterious marketing collective as "Britains Coolest Brands". Now, given the tears and toys out of prams I caused here once when questioning "fashion", I thought I'd revisit the subject albeit in a roundabout fashion. So heres the link to the story - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15083563 It also lists "international top 10 brands" there. And a link to the marketing group. Now, to my mind, theres some odd brands in there - some total gash, and others that I use/like/buy completely unconnected to their coolness, and some I wont touch because I simply know better. For example - from the UK list - Astons were cool when they were hand built in Newport Pagnall and the bloke who built the engine put a plaque on it to that effect, and the panels were all hand crafted. They were big, grand tourers, rather than sports cars, and still spattered with 007 cool from the 60's. I think of them as pressed panel made badge engineered Jags now, and that to me isn't cool. Aspalls Cider. This is lovely stuff. I buy it out of choice. Now I know it's cool, I may buy it less. I don't want to be assocuated with the kind of people in pubs who order cool drinks. Apple - fanboi gash that locks you to the manufacturers revenue stream by an overcontrolled maker who begin to make The Empire look positively benign. Everytime I see an Apple iPhone user, I think, ooh, I can ring people too.. but it doesnt cost me £40 contract and or £400 a phone to do that.... to be, Android is well, not "cooler", but a worthy alternative. Cobra? Do me a favour, its flat, dull lager brewed in Reading. Wake up and smell the marketing! Band Olufson. - Well, put it this way, I never found a hifi enthusiast who ever bought B&O as its gash. Its over ecpensive, over designed, and actually not generally that good to listen to. There are many other brands at your local hifi dealer much better for listening to, and isn't that the point, actually, of a decent hi fi? Green and Black chocolate. Hey, didn't you know its owned by Cadburys, and just past of Kraft - you know, the inventors of cheese in a bottle... Its gritty, grainy naff chocolate. You can get much better for the same cash. Montezuma for example, or even some of the supermarket finest/best ofs are much nicer for a real chocoholic to munch on. Ducati? Well, I'm a biker, and I don't think they've made a nice looking bike for nearly 20 years now. Compare the Monster and 916 with the multistrada or the 1198... Ducati, might be geting better under the engine covers, but what lies on top is just ugly. I'd rate Triumph much higher these days. Morgan? Ok, I understand why people buy them, but since when was living in 1937 cool? Jelly Belly sweets. Genuinely delicious, but f**king expensive. I used to get them as a treat as a kid when they were only available from Harrods or Selfridges, but these days, they're just mass marketed sweets. Whats cool about that? XBOX? Did the fanbois win? Can a kids console ever actually be "cool"? Its jsut a PC without a keyboard for morons who can't do excel and would send a frag grenade at MS word. Top Trumps? Just riding a wave of nostalgia from 40 somethings who remeber when it was an exciting accessible craze in the playground. But this was BEFORE Thatcher got elected... how can somethign so old be cool now? Stella. Shit brewed in Reading. - Refer to Cobra, only less flat and for the more domestically violent of you. Tiger Beer. I used to like this. Then recently, I got a 4 pack, and it was not so nice. I looked at the label, and guess what, its no longer imported. Its brewed in Reading. - see Cobra and Stella. Jagermeister? A spirit so awful you need to sink it into a pint or mix it with some awful energy drink that tastes like screenwash? Howis that "cool"? Its student drinking. And when were students ever cool? The point of being a student is to get your uncool years over away from the privicy of your parents, surely? Liberty? I just ordered a shirt in their fabric. I am fat, 42 and less cool than a burning meteor heading towards the sun. When people like me wear your clothing, the brand is DEAD! I almost bought a Superdry T shirt and hoodie last week, just to annoy the yoof who still do. So, in essence, I just dont get this list. it seems more an itemised league table of marketing budgets, than any genuine quest for cool brands. Or have I got it all wrong again? What brands on the list do you object to? And dont get me started on the international list.. Harley Davidsion. Agricultural 2 wheeled tractors for retired bankers looking to release their inner rebel with their pension fund. So Im thinking for say Hifi, that Linn should be there. Im thinking that for beer, any number of beers are "cooler" to be seen drinking, my local bar to my last office did draft Budvar Dark and Leffe on tap as well! Thats way cooler. Or a pint of Thornbridge Jaipur I had in my local spoons last weekend was simply far superior in every dimension. Surely for cars, Alfa would have to be well higher, not for exclucivity, but that every car they made for the last 20 years has been drop dead gorgeous.... I hand it over to you for your thoughts.... What brands do you or dont you touch, and particularly from this list, and why?

"Sorry, we don't serve faster than light muon neutrinos in here" said the bar man. A muon neutrino walks into the bar.

Been to see "One day" at the cinema yesterday. Its not a great film, theres not really much you can do with the story, as the charm of the story is the writing, rather than the plot. (David Nicholls, writer of the Cold Feet Series, and Starter for 10). Actually, theres virtually no plot to the film, other than ups and downs of the two, bookmarked on the same day, through 20 years. The book is really pleasant to read, til the end, which just fails, and I have yet to find anyone disagree. But it's nicely acted and Anne Hathaway is really cute. And two hours of Anne Hathaway being cute is good enough for me on this occasion. It's one to take the girlfriend to, but do read the book first, it will help you understand the paper thin plot device.

Largely due to alphabeticial preference, and pending the late kickoff, we are top of the Prem. I would post a screenshot,b ut frankly I can't be bothered. But, when was the last time this happened? Under John Gregory? Does this make Alex McLeish the most successful manager in 20 odd years?

Will Tattooine chat replace Barrens chat? Has Anyone seen Uncle Mankirik, sorry, Owen's wife? As someone put it on eurogamer. "Great, more mindless grinding, but this time for a new Sith hat!".

Have you not seen those "tomberries" that we got in our local Sainsburies?

But the original meaning of commode was simply an upstairs room? Ie If you find my house commodious, that means comfortable. Commode only became selectively used as initially an upstairs room, noted not to be a bedroom, and from then, a modest room for the use of a morning toilet, finally ending with a cabinet of which we are now familiar, with the evolution of an upstairs to a traditional home, followed by its compartmentalisation. I could be wrong, but that was what I have always believed. If Peterms has been discommoded, that implies to me in modern parlance that someones stolen his en suite........ Isn't english a fantastic language?

Yeah, some fans can see the iceburg approaching the Titanic that is Asont Villa, and thinking "oh, thats good, I'd like ice in my drink". Is there any club in the prem where contracts are so easilly torn up as Villa under Lerner? At least O Neill fought against this policy, which is why we have a ginger relegation maestro at the helm now.

Thats how Randy Lerner builds a winning team, er by selling all the best players. Seriously, the mans f**king deranged. Even Ellis wasn't this bad when he hears the lure of the £££££. A couple of f**king mosiacs and a refubished pub are not adequate compensation for selling your best players every year.............................

Yes, essentially two fo the most memorable things about Brown in hindsite is that we're supposed to think he's a bully, bot no one ever came forward to make the allegation, and that there were rebust internal reporting methods that the "bullied" person could/should have utilised. Oh, and that Mrs Bigot from Preston or whatever, was in fact a BIGOT. That he actually said that, and was widely reported. A decent press would have opened up the debate. Whether you like the man or don't, it was as much the press as anything else that finished him. His handling of the immediate issues of collapse of major banks was reasonably well handled, and theres no one says otherwise.

Oh, and this is old news from 28th June in Grauniad, which was indicative NOTW was already to be shortly to be rebranded anyway. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/jun/28/newsinternational-rebekahwade you got to admire Murdoch, he's good. Making a public sacrifice of what was going to happen anyway. They must be laughing their cocks off at people who think closure of NOTW is anything other than a short term inconveniecne.

Can someone explain to me what it is about Brooks, that Murdoch thinks she is a talent worth saving?

Basically, this is Murdoch deciding he isn't getting sufficient protection from dodgy dave, and so hanging his friend out to dry, (or at least a warning to politicians to lay off) and will also end hanging Brooks who's ability to defend this shit has been poor from the start. Basically the Emperor is getting rid of Darth Vader to save the Empire. Suspect now its costing money, re advertisers, sales, ditching Brooks will be a real sacrifice to take the heat off the corporation itself. She has said she's going no where. Until Murdoch decides otherwise. But if your the editor, you must read the shit you print. She *must* have known simply by being in that environment, let alone having the faintest idea where the ideas for the stories came from.

Your missing the essential point. At the time of the statements in court, he is technically still a free man, and on an equal footing with the prosecution. Therefore, the jury has every right to listen to all possible alternatives,to ensure he is guilty beyond all reasonable doubt, before sending a man to prison for in all likelyhood, the rest of his life. Theres many a victim of miscarriage of justive that wishes juries had all the evidence and theories presented to them before they sent a man to the gallows or to a life term. It is everyones right to be allwed to explain themselves, and the juries right to consider it. Thats before the parents right. Oh, and lets face it, despite the unpleasantness, there could have been an an essentialt truth to some of the allegations? For example on one point - If as an adult, you leave hardcore porn lying around, and it distresses the child, thats not anyone elses fault its it? If as parents, the child is unhappy and you as parents haven't noticed, should you have? Whether it comes up in court at a later date just to "embarass you" is not the issue, and to think just because a man who was then convicted says so, doesn't make any the less palatable.