villan_007

If the real truth was played out in public you'd be fully behind Bruce. - Huge sigh of relief when he left Fulham - Disgrace at Forest - Bigger disgrace with us. Has burnt every bridge with everyone at the club who has tried to help him. Have you ever heard of a pro being shipped out to Australia? Nobody else would take him. It should tell you all you need to know. Bonkers decision from everyone at the club who signed him. Free pass for Brucie.

Off to rehab in the sun to play in a pub league. But yeah defo Bruce's fault for calling him out. Let's stick to slagging Bruce off for the actual mistakes he's made because this isn't one of them.

Great detective work columbo.

Why is the penny just not dropping for some in this thread?? He has issues beyond anyone's control. Deal with it. It has nothing to do with Bruce

Let it go DC....just let it go. Isn't your scott hogan dartboard at home enough?

Or the time he drove down to colchester when he was told to stay home so he could sit with the young lads and be with the squad before the game. There's always a story. I must need my eyes testing. I thought he was solid.

Rubbish. Brief highlights means you didn't see it. He was sick of us doing nothing. Took it forward himself a few times and tried to create something. We wasted it and they broke away. Fact is terry shouldn't be creating anything. He was solid today. He's the very least of our problems.

Not a scooby who could come in and fix us. Any realistic target I've seen mentioned is just more of the same

Replays are so annoying

Finally sorted the villa app on the android box! Got to say so far its spot on!!

Awful for me this game. Replays are glitchy, freezing every now and then, even had gareth bale and a la liga clip, plus coloured bars no signal screen pop up.

I hear you Dave. It's been one false dawn after another. This bunch seem to at least be doing more than talking....but i wont hold my breath.

They're damned in they do and damned if they don't really. We've moaned for yrs we have no Villa way. Randy left us with a ruin of an academy and scouting system. Our new chairmen hires one of the supposedly brightest men in football in Round who sets about rebuilding it all. They give us an update on how it's going and it's met with laughter and a yeah right response. What can you do? I agree probably not the right time to tell us, but at least they acknowledge it needed to be done and are doing it.

No I've seen it twice, once on wm and again with the villa view interview on youtube. Both asked about FFP and if we don't go up this season are we ok financially. He said yes we have plans in place for every outcome and have planned accordingly for either.

From the last interview. Yes they have planned for failure this season.

Well its our first outside of the uk so they couldn't have been there before. He's spent enough to get out of this league that can't be argued. I mean what did you think was going to happen? Robiniho and tevez where going to turn up in the championship?? He stated his plans, it was never going to happen instantly. He's done the opposite to lerner. Lerner thought a nice painting and a lick of paint was enough after the initial spend. The Dr is making meaningful sponsorship deals, trying to keep the club relevant whilst the prem beast speeds further away. If you were expecting champions league after 12 months then you were never going to rate him.

Well he has splashed the cash. You can't deny that. From the latest FFP news he has somehow massively saved us from getting a fine. Surely being a championship club over spending by some sponsorship work around would be reckless and silly. Do we really need to spend anymore? In terms of sponsorship and innovation... - He's opened Villa training schools in both India and China broadening the club brand - Arranged for Zeelo a custom-made coach routes for season ticket holders - the first in Birmingham. - Made Science in Sport our new official nutrition partner. Big in the olympics and Team Sky winning 2017 Tour de France team sponsor. - Partnered with Hisense who are now globally on par with most tech brands, and the their first football partner in the UK. - Our Kits are with Under Armour. - Unibet are our sponsors that cross many global sports. For a championship Club, he's spent a fortune, assembled a squad more than capable of winning the league, completed the above deals, reinvigorated the club fan connect and kept us in the black I don't think there is really much more he can do given where we are. What more do you want from him?

He did. Yet I think it was barely a month after that, that Bruce and the board truly realised just how broken the club was. The magic money wand alone wasn't enough. I think it's held us back up to even now. I see and agree with most of the reasons for moving bruce on. Yet due to the lerner decay, the amount needed to be fixed, if we just hold on a little longer we could just have permanently turned the corner for the better.

I imagine this comment is the crux of TROs point. You know full well that many players from many different teams take all different amounts of time to settle, to bed in. Yet here you're singling out Bruce for it.

Funny, the last time I was in Portugal they had the internet, phone lines, dvd players, football teams, training camps. Must have gone down hill massively this week. Shame.

Interesting. I always thought it was 9mill initially and rising to 12 based on promotion and all the little extras they throw in. Was listening to WM last week where the hogan / bruce thing was discussed. A few said between 9-12 on there. I googled hogan signs for villa and see the bbc saying could rise to 12.

Yep - within that criticism. It's gone from 9mill, 12mill, 14mill and then 15mill in the article above. I agree with the criticism by the way.

Love how Hogans price goes up with every Bruce rant. Next week he'll have cost 20mill

I guess everybody missed Baker being absolutely bossed by our academy striker. Jesus wept. It really is a week to week meltdown isn't it.

True, but Adomah likes to have a week off every now and again. So Elmo will cover him. I think Snodgrass has been brought in to play where Bruce wanted Grealish to play. Which then means Hourahaine misses out, or Odomah. Wow it is a confusing signing really. I don't know what my point was anymore.