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Dundee is kown for the 'three Js' Mike. Jute, jam and journalism. Jute production used to be the city's main industry, jam is the marmalade, and journalism comes from publisher DC Thomson, home of the Beano, Dandy, Oor Wullie, The Broons, and magazines and newspapers like the Courier, Sunday Post and People's Friend.

In lists dedicated to Scottish entertainers, cultural icons, and innovative deep fried foods respectively, they would all feature highly Paulo. I suspect the list of deep fried foods would be the longest.

Slightly OT, but for a small country we have more than punched above our weight in terms of what we've given the world. Here is an amazing list of Scottish inventions to illustrate our pure dead brilliance Road transport innovations • Macadamised roads (the basis for, but not specifically, Tarmac): John Loudon McAdam (1756–1836) • The pedal bicycle: Attributed to both Kirkpatrick Macmillan (1813–1878) and Thomas McCall (1834–1904) • The pneumatic tyre: Robert William Thomson and John Boyd Dunlop (1822–1873) • The overhead valve engine: David Dunbar Buick (1854–1929) Civil engineering innovations • Tubular steel: Sir William Fairbairn (1789–1874) • Falkirk Wheel: Initial designs by Nicoll Russell Studios, Architects and engineers Binnie Black and Veatch (Opened 2002) • The patent slip for docking vessels: Thomas Morton (1781–1832) • The Drummond Light: Thomas Drummond (1797–1840) • Canal design: Thomas Telford (1757–1834) • Dock design improvements: John Rennie (1761–1821) • Crane design improvements: James Bremner (1784–1856) Aviation innovations • Aircraft design: Frank Barnwell (1910) Establishing the fundamentals of aircraft design at the University of Glasgow. Power innovations • Condensing steam engine improvements: James Watt (1736–1819) • Coal-gas lighting: William Murdoch (1754–1839) • The Stirling heat engine: Rev. Robert Stirling (1790–1878) • Carbon brushes for dynamos: George Forbes (1849–1936) • The Clerk cycle gas engine: Sir Dugald Clerk (1854–1932) • Cloud chamber recording of atoms: Charles T. R. Wilson (1869–1959) • Wave-powered electricity generator:By South African Engineer Stephen Salter in 1977 Shipbuilding innovations • Europe's first passenger steamboat: Henry Bell (1767–1830) • The first iron-hulled steamship: Sir William Fairbairn (1789–1874) • The first practical screw propeller: Robert Wilson (1803–1882)[ • Marine engine innovations: James Howden (1832–1913) • John Elder & Charles Randolph (Marine Compound expansion engine) Heavy industry innovations •Coal mining extraction in the sea on an artificial island by Sir George Bruce of Carnock (1575). Regarded as one of the industrial wonders of the late medieval period. • Making cast steel from wrought iron: David Mushet (1772–1847) • Wrought iron sash bars for glass houses: John C. Loudon (1783–1865) • The hot blast oven: James Beaumont Neilson (1792–1865) • The steam hammer: James Nasmyth (1808–1890) • Wire rope: Robert Stirling Newall (1812–1889) • Steam engine improvements: William Mcnaught (1831–1881) • The Fairlie, a narrow gauge, double-bogie railway engine: Robert Francis Fairlie (1831–1885) • Cordite - Sir James Dewar, Sir Frederick Abel (1889) Agricultural innovations • Threshing machine improvements: James Meikle (c.1690-c.1780) & Andrew Meikle (1719–1811) • Hollow pipe drainage: Sir Hew Dalrymple, Lord Drummore (1700–1753) • The Scotch Plough: James Anderson of Hermiston (1739–1808) • Deanstonisation soil-drainage system: James Smith (1789–1850) • The mechanical reaping machine: Rev. Patrick Bell (1799–1869) • The Fresno Scraper: James Porteous (1848–1922) • The Tuley tree shelter: Graham Tuley in 1979 Communication innovations • Print stereotyping: William Ged (1690–1749) • Roller printing: Thomas Bell (patented 1783) • The adhesive postage stamp and the postmark: James Chalmers (1782–1853) • Universal Standard Time: Sir Sandford Fleming (1827–1915) • Light signalling between ships: Admiral Philip H. Colomb (1831–1899) • The telephone: Alexander Graham Bell (1847–1922) • The teleprinter: Frederick G. Creed (1871–1957) • The first working television, and colour television; John Logie Baird (1888–1946) • Radar: Robert Watson-Watt (1892–1973) • The underlying principles of Radio - James Clerk Maxwell (1831–1879) • The Automated Teller Machine and Personal Identification Number system - James Goodfellow (born 1937) Publishing firsts • The first edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica (1768–81) • The first English textbook on surgery(1597) • The first modern pharmacopaedia, William Cullen (1776). The book became 'Europe’s principal text on th classification and treatment of disease'. His ideas survive in the terms nervous energy and neuroses (a word that Cullen coined). • The first postcards and picture postcards in the UK Scientific innovations • Logarithms: John Napier (1550–1617) • The theory of electromagnetism: James Clerk Maxwell (1831–1879) • The first theory of the Higgs boson or "God Particle" by Peter Higgs particle-physics theorist at the University of Edinburgh (1964) • Popularising the decimal point: John Napier (1550–1617) • The world's first oil refinery and a process of extracting paraffin from coal laying the foundations for the modern oil industry: James Young (1811–1883) • The Gregorian telescope: James Gregory (1638–1675) • The concept of latent heat: Joseph Black (1728–1799) • The pyroscope, atmometer and aethrioscope scientific instruments: Sir John Leslie (1766–1832) • Identifying the nucleus in living cells: Robert Brown (1773–1858) • Hypnotism: James Braid (1795–1860) • Transplant rejection: Professor Thomas Gibson (1940s) the first medical doctor to understand the relationship between donor graft tissue and host tissue rejection and tissue transplantation by his work on aviation burns victims during World War II. • Colloid chemistry: Thomas Graham (1805–1869) • The kelvin SI unit of temperature: William Thomson, Lord Kelvin (1824–1907) • Devising the diagramatic system of representing chemical bonds: Alexander Crum Brown (1838–1922) • Criminal fingerprinting: Henry Faulds (1843–1930) • The noble gases: Sir William Ramsay (1852–1916) • The Cloud chamber: Charles Thomson Rees Wilson (1869–1959) • Pioneering work on nutrition and poverty: John Boyd Orr (1880–1971) • The ultrasound scanner: Ian Donald (1910–1987) • Ferrocene synthetic substances: Peter Ludwig Pauson in 1955 • The MRI body scanner: John Mallard and James Huchinson from (1974–1980) • The first cloned mammal (Dolly the Sheep): Was conducted in The Roslin Institute research centre • Seismometer innovations thereof: James David Forbes • Metaflex fabric innovations thereof: University of St. Andrews (2010) application of the first manufacturing fabrics that manipulate light in bending it around a subject. Before this such light manipulating atoms were fixed on flat hard surfaces. The team at St Andrews are the first to develop the concept to fabric. • Macaulayite: Dr. Jeff Wilson of the Macaulay Institute, Aberdeen. Sports innovations Scots have been instrumental in the invention and early development of several sports: • several modern athletics events, i.e. shot put[84] and the hammer throw, derive from Highland Games and earlier 12th century Scotland • Curling • Gaelic handball The modern game of handball is first recorded in Scotland in 1427, when King James I an ardent handball player had his men block up a cellar window in his palace courtyard that was interfering with his game. • Cycling, invention of the pedal-cycle • Golf (see Golf in Scotland) • Shinty The history of Shinty as a non-standardised sport pre-dates Scotland the Nation. The rules were standardised in the 19th century by Archibald Chisholm • Rugby sevens: Ned Haig and David Sanderson (1883) Military innovations • Lieutenant-General Sir David Henderson two areas: - Field intelligence. Argued for the establishment of the Intelligence Corps. Wrote Field Intelligence: Its Principles and Practice (1904) and Reconnaissance (1907) on the tactical intelligence of modern warfare during World War I. - Royal Air Force. Considered instrumental in the foundation of the British Royal Air Force. Medical innovations • Pioneering the use of surgical anaesthesia with Chloroform: Sir James Young Simpson (1811–1870) • The hypodermic syringe: Alexander Wood (1817–1884) • Discovery of hypnotism (November 1841): James Braid (1795–1860) • Identifying the mosquito as the carrier of malaria: Sir Ronald Ross (1857–1932) • Identifying the cause of brucellosis: Sir David Bruce (1855–1931) • Discovering the vaccine for typhoid fever: Sir William B. Leishman (1865–1926) • Discovering insulin: John J R Macleod (1876–1935) with others • Penicillin: Sir Alexander Fleming (1881–1955) • General anaesthetic - Pionered by Scotsman James Young Simpson and Englishman John Snow • Ambulight PDT: light-emitting sticking plaster used in photodynamic therapy (PDT) for treating non-melanoma skin cancer. Developed by Ambicare Dundee's Ninewells Hospital and St Andrews University. (2010) • Discovering an effective tuberculosis treatment: Sir John Crofton in the 1950s • Primary creator of the artificial kidney (Professor Kenneth Lowe - Later Queen's physician in Scotland) • Developing the first beta-blocker drugs: Sir James W. Black in 1964 • Glasgow Coma Scale: Graham Teasdale and Bryan J. Jennett (1974) • EKG [Electrocardiography]: Alexander Muirhead (1911) Household innovations • The Television John Logie Baird (1923) • The Refrigerator: William Cullen (1748) • The Flush toilet: Alexander Cummings (1775) • The Dewar Flask: Sir James Dewar (1847–1932) • The first distiller to triple distill Irish whiskeyJohn Jameson (Whisky distiller) • The piano footpedal: John Broadwood (1732–1812) • The first automated can-filing machine John West (1809–1888) • The waterproof macintosh: Charles Macintosh (1766–1843) • The kaleidoscope: Sir David Brewster (1781–1868) • Keiller's marmalade Janet Keiller (1797) - The first recipe of rind suspended marmalade or Dundee marmalade produced in Dundee. • The modern lawnmower: Alexander Shanks (1801–1845) • The Lucifer friction match: Sir Isaac Holden (1807–1897) • The self filling pen: Robert Thomson (1822–1873) • Cotton-reel thread: J & J Clark of Paisley • Lime Cordial: Peter Burnett in 1867 • Bovril beef extract: John Lawson Johnston in 1874 • Electric clock: Alexander Bain (1840) • Chemical Telegraph (Automatic Telegraphy) Alexander Bain (1846) In England Bain's telegraph was used on the wires of the Electric Telegraph Company to a limited extent, and in 1850 it was used in America. Weapons innovations • The carronade cannon: Robert Melville (1723–1809) • The Ferguson rifle: Patrick Ferguson in 1770 or 1776 • The Lee bolt system as used in the Lee-Metford and Lee-Enfield series rifles: James Paris Lee • The Ghillie suit • The Percussion Cap: invented by Scottish Presbyterian clergyman Alexander Forsyth Miscellaneous innovations • Boys' Brigade •Bank of England devised by William Paterson • Bank of France devised by John Law • Colour photography: the first known permanent colour photograph was taken by James Clerk Maxwell. BEAT THAT DENMARK!

You'll love it. I live just down the road. Fancy a pint?

I have little doubt Scotland would be fine as an independent country. Look at Norway or Denmark which have similar resources and populations. It's untangling the Union that would be the major problem. It would be so complex and costly to Scotland it might make the whole thing untenable. If that can all be sorted out, in the long-term Scotland would be just fine on its own. Absolutley no reason why it can't be. An interesting thing I've noticed on all the newspaper message boards (and to a certain extent on here) is the level of anti-Scottish sentiment this has brought bubbling to the surface this week. A lot of name calling and abuse from our southern cousins.

The Bannockburn tie-in is an invention of the media. It's not true that the SNP will try and hitch the referendum up to some kind of spike in anti-English sentiment around this anniversary. Most Scots wouldn't have a clue what happened in 1314 anyway. This is about what's best for Scotland in the long-run, nothing to do with anti-Englishness. Do we want to determine our own future, or are we happy to remain part of the union? I look forward to the debate, after which I will make up my mind one way or another and cast my vote. It's just a shame the press don't have the maturity to debate the issues properly, and instead come out with the kind of tripe above.

Just started watching S1 of Breaking Bad last night. Looks interesting....

Currently we look like one of the worst teams in the division to me. If not the worst. The Spurs, Man U and Pool games have been simply embarrassing to watch. I think we are in big trouble, because Eck is going nowhere. I wouldn't be shocked if we went down with a whimper.

Lol. All his best signings have been sold. We are much worse off without O'Neill. The evidence since he left proves this beyond any dispute.

I'm sorry Alex, it's a no from me.

His appointment has been a total disaster. The style of football is....well there is no style at all. It's by far the worst I've ever seen us play, and I sat through some awful perfomances under Gregory and GTII. We all saw this coming as soon as he got the job. The most worrying thing is that he's not going anywhere. Our chaiman is also clueless.

Fking absysmal. Clueless and gutless. Utd were there for the taking but we made it so so easy for them. McLeish Out.

Cant Tots Sow

That's not a valid reason to pay him compensation though. If he walked away, i.e. resigned, because he wasn't happy for whatever reason, then he was owed nothing by Lerner.

One thing Ive never understood: If O'Neill "walked out" on Villa, then why did Lerner have to pay him compensation?? We'll never know exactly what happened, but I dont think it was as simple as MON walking out.

Hopefully this whole sorry saga will be the wake-up call he needs. He needs to realise he is a very lucky young man who could have the world at his feet if he wants to work hard and take the opportunity that is in front of him. He will either go that way, or continue his shenanigans and slide into obscurity. As a Villa fan and a Scot I really hope he is intelligent enough to make the right choice. He has real potential.

I dunno what your lovely mixed race grandson has to do with anything. I'm sure you do love him, but that's irrelevant. We're not talking about racism in your case, we're talking about religiously indoctrinated homophobia. Didn't you say you wouldn't invite a gay couple to your house for dinner previously in the thread? If not, I apologise. If so, that's narrow mindedness on a par with old Alf Garnett. (Edit: I just re-read the thead and you did indeed say you wouldn't invite them for dinner. I guess you must have had little or no choice about the bi-sexual sister in law, but when you do have the choice you wouldn't have them in the house. Is that about right?)

You don't have to mean harm to people to be bigoted against them. Bigotry is just an irrational prejudice. I would say Julie is bigoted because she makes judgements about a large swathe of the population based purely on their sexuality and nothing else. She wouldn't have gays in her house. Alf Garnett wouldn't have black people in his house.

Julie, Read your own words. You said you wouldn't invite gays into your home, said they aren't morally upstanding enough to be members of your 'church' (cult) and then compared them to drug addicts. You might be polite to gays when you happen upon them as you go through life, but you really don't approve of their choices in the bedroom. That comes over loud and clear. That is bigotry. Although at least it appears you can keep a lid on yours in public.

I used to work at Sky. She is very short (about 4ft 9in) and has a fat arse. Looks good on telly sitting down though.

Whether or not JWs sucked up to Hitler to curry favour until they realised he hated them as much as he did the Jews (they did) is irrelevant to this argument anyway. The fact is the JW church is organised like a cult and has a cultish belief system. It's a cult. Get out while you can Julie. (All religions are essentially cults, but for the sake of this argument I use cult in the traditional sense.)

Maybe not a liar, but tragically deluded.

I had a tug in the toilets of a National Express coach many years ago to relieve the boredom of a London to Glasgow journey. Does that count?

This would cost Randy too much in big plastic letters.