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Love him or hate him, some years ago, Tom Ross said that Sky and money would ruin the game

The fat van insurance man is, I belive, Andy Scott from the 70s Glam Rock band "The Sweet" - I think it's Andy Scott anyway, but it is CERTAINLY one of The Sweet - who incidentally HATED playing all the Glam Rock stuff and were really aspiring to be a "heavy/rock" group - many of their B sides were in fact like that.

Some of their fans were an absolute disgrace last season after the game at their place - really in our faces as we were walking along (this was lads probably in their 20s mind you - and some older Man C fans came along afterwards and had a sensible discussion with us as we walked back to the car). Man C fans used to be decent and I guess the majority still are - but there is certainly this horrid chavvy aggressive cocky element amongst the younger ones now

I did and even though I'm divorced now, I have kept my married surname. If I were ever to remarry, I would expect to take their surname (unless it was something awful I suppose) - guess I'm old fashioned in some ways.

After the weekend and the behaviour of the City fans,I changed my opinion and wanted Spurs to get fourth. Well they've done it - and, I feel gutted to be honest, because to my mind, that means that we will now be battling for 6th/7th place at best next season . I feel a great disappointment that we have been so close for three seasons now - yet Spurs have ONE good season and make it to the Champs League. Last season, they were in danger of being relegated - I well remember our away game to them early last season, hearing their fans on the walk back to the car discussing how we were so much better than them - now look, one year on! :cry: (Yes I know we've still had a good season )

I, and a few around me, thought the atmosphere at the game turned really nasty yesterday. Over to our left there was some sort of fight between villa fans , which left a little girl, who presumably was with her dad, crying. Later some people behind us (obviously totally tanked up, seen them before at away games always well pissed) were just shouting that we were shit shit shit shit - relentlessly! when one of us asked why they were saying that, got abused and offered out - we managed to calm it down and then someone behind them pushed said person straight into the lady sitting three seats away from me - who often sits by us at away games and I know she suffers from a bad back - which left her upset too - and her husband really really annoyed. Then, to cap it all, on the way out, we too got abused by citeh fans - right in our faces, - they really have turned into arrogant Man U/Chelsea type fans haven't they! I wont say what they called us ! Anyway, I had always had a lot of time for Man City fans as I remember their large crowds when down in League One (or div three whatever it was then) but now, I just hope Spurs get fourth. Have to say though that some Man city fans asked if we were OK when they saw how the stupid element were in our faces, and we then walked along the road having a good chat about the game - clearly though there are still some decent Citeh fans but my opinon has definitely changed since yesterday.

following on from a charity would be a "PR Disaster" and that Villa will struggle bigtime to find a sponsor willing to take that risk........ I don't understand why this should be so? Anyone in PR able to explain?

Well this thread hasn't been half as bad as I was expecting. I think the Chelsea support is appalling - they just don't know HOW to support their team do they? I'd love to see how they would react in the very unlikely event of their team ever taking a 7-1 thrashing - how many of their suporters would still be in the ground singing and clapping as we were. Then, all they can do is after the game stand in the streets making stupid gestures at the Villa coaches. Pathetic. Trouble is most of them have only been Chelsea fans since they became successful I guess. Just once I'd LOVE to see one of the top teams taking an almighty thrashing - never happens though does it - that's why they are the top teams. Why did it have to be us though. I think though like others that it has been coming for a while. I really hope it has served as the kick up the arse that they need, players, MON and all!!!! Oh and please let's just turn the tables on those smug Chelsea so called "supporters" at Wembley please - you can guess that they're gonna taunt us with it.

I was talking to a lad at work today who was at the Pompey - Blooz cup game on Saturday. He said that Craig Gardner was warming up near them and they were all singing "We hate Villa more than you" to him and he was laughing, clapping and touching his badge . I pointed out that one day he would remember he had always been a Walsall fan (as someone on here said)

Love it. Fantastic on toast, use it in my gravy too. When I was little I used to put a spoon in the jar and eat it neat - coudn't do that now though

I thought the catering was OK. The drinks were cheaper than at VP. Anyhow, when Carew had scored two goals, I thought we should've changed the chant a bit - how about "John Carew, you see, he's bigger than you and me, he's gonna score two or three, John Carew you see"

Happy Birthday Dear General Chas Krulak - and thanks :birthday:

A good day out, so sad about the end result though - especially as Dowd was their twelfth man. Was rather disappointed in Wembley Stadium though - but then maybe that was because of our seats. £70 to be on Row 2 - not what I expected, couldn't see large part of pitch as too close so spent £70 to watch a good portion of the game on the big screen! Next time I may go for the £54 tickets - what was the view like from those? I prefer The Emirates Stadium to Wembley - based on yesterday - and 90 minutes just to get out of the area! Horrendous. Might try car/train next time (here's hoping we get there). Villa fans were great. Man U awful - so arrogant as usual, no noise until they are winning then they pipe up. Just seems unfair - this meant everything to us and nothing to them -they are just so used to their team winning I guess! Disappointed but a good day out . Ironic too, advert on the side said "Randy We Love You" (in Claret and Blue), we love our owner. Them - well they are winning and start chanting how they want Glazer out, mass green and yellow "Newton Heath" scarfs everywhere too. Randy and The General deserve a trophy they really do. Oh well, maybe the FA Cup?

Watch it though , let's hope Pompey don't go out of business cos Blooz will apparently get a bye to the semi-finals of the FA Cup (Wembley) if they do!!!

I agree, it's great to get a big win but why do we keep letting in a late goal - goal difference means so much. Incidentally, how come Liverpool are above us in the table on same points and same goal difference - yet they've played a game more????

If you had to choose beating Man U either on Wednesday or at Wembley - what would you prefer - I'd prefer Wembley - we've beaten them once this season, twice is pushing it and three times - well -highly unlikely. Would prefer to beat them three times really though.

Sadly,I can see them overtaking us I can't bear it!!! :evil: Also wouldn't it be just like them to get to the FA Cup Final too! I keep thinking their run must end soon - but it goes on and on and on and on

The local media have ALWAYS bigged up SHA in my opinion, even when they were in the Championship. B'ham Mail, nearly always they have the back page headline, Tom Ross's show is like Radio Birmingham City - just driving home after a game from Villa - 95% of the journey will probably be Bham City related - calls from fans or an interminably long chat with the manager or a player. Eventually, the odd Villa fan will get on - and then it is usually a sweet kid who Tom Ross will humour and the call will be about 60 seconds or something. The only time Villa get decent coverage seems to be if Blooz aren't playing! (and if Albion aren't playing also)

Must admit, I'm with Richard on this. I don't see what we have to laugh about with them at the moment, they could well beat Man U at the weekend and could end up overtaking us if we're not careful. Can't understand though how Carson Yeung struggled to find the money to complete the deal two years ago and GOld etc said they would never do business with him again and now, he seems to have money and is the best thing since sliced bread. Hmm weird.

Full old fashioned milk for me - very unhealthy I know but I just can't take to the more healthy ones. I can just about cope with semi-skimmed on occasions but skimmed, yeeukk and long-life even worse! I have taken to buying even the blue top Cravendale or Organic milk lately as I have noticed that Sainsburys, Tesco etc have been reducing the fat in the full fat milk - and they tasted only marginally better than semi skimmed. I love dairy too - and it's so bad for you (apparently)

What if the unknown people have untold wealth?

In relation to the Pompey Cup tickets, when I got in from work , I had a message on my answering machine from Villa to say that as a ST holder and away scheme member who has been to all away games (except Sunderland in the Cup!!!) so far this season, there was a new window in place to ensure that we would get a ticket if we wanted one - up to 5.00 on Monday. Maybe the concerns voiced here have been addressed - well done Villa.

Crap queue inside ground for food and drink, crap view of the game - too low down and near corner, couldn't see the goalposts/net at all without really leaning forward - couldn't see Ash's goal. Crap , same old, same old performance - their pen surely was not but, it seemed, Bennett may have realised the error of his ways and handed us a dubious pen to balance the books - fans went wild but Ash steps up to take it, just knew it would be saved -it was. Ash then gets a great goal apparently (not that I could see it) and then after that, same old same old again - we do nothing, they come more and more into it and you just knew what was going to happen - sure enough it did. Absolutely appalling journey home, held up on North circular road for over 2 hours, finally hitting the M1 at 12.40 am. So you can guess that it was after 3.00 am when I got home, miserable, having to work all day today. I just WISH we could be excited by Villa sometimes - I wish we had a striker who made you excited when he had the ball and that you felt there was at least a 50% chance he would score. We are just so dull sometimes. I also think people outside Villa rate MON more highly than some of the supporters. I heard a Liverpool fan on the radio this morning saying he wanted Rafa out and MON in, but some said why would MON be interested in leaving Villa for Liverpool anyway. I'm not slating MON here, I'm just a bit ambivalent about it all and feeling a bit bored and disenchanted with Villa at the moment - but hey, I'll be there on Sat and at Burnley on 21st hoping for an exciting and winning performance. :?

Last season, sat in the Upper part of the stand, but I remember two seasons ago when we were last in the lower stand, the view was indeed crap. I couldn't see hardly at all, spent most of the time craning my neck to see what was happening on the big screen in the corner behind us - ended up with ricked neck - terrible view of the pitch - could only see to the half-way line. Disappointed that we are inthe lower stand again (Paddock).

I must defend Risso - IOM is not a shitty place, it's fab.