Morpheus

So you think something which encourages young people to video themselves drinking is a game. Fair enough we're all entitled to our opinion but as we've already seen something like this very quickly gets out of control when one wants to out do the other and that has resulted in a death. Did you see the news last night where the family of the young lad that died pleaded for this craze to stop? Try telling them that its just a game and I suppose if any teachers agree with your above post what does that actually say about those who are employed to set an example to children. Yes, it is a game. I'm not sure how else you'd describe it, even if you don't like it? Drinking games aren't new. I have sympathy for the guys who died and their families. But I would say their death is way more to do with them being moronic about what they were drinking than the game. The game isn't to down pints of spirits or anything else that can kill you. Blaming the game for their deaths is like blaming the inventor of the motorbike because someone died trying to jump the grand canyon on one. Nice dig at Stefan at the end there. Classy. The problem with your 'game' Stevo is that it has very quickly lost it's original identity and escalated into a dare scenario of 'chicken' all over the social networks whereby one party tries to outdo the other and it's that escalation that has finally caused someone's death. One of the main social networks in Ireland has now banned your 'game' and not before time. 'Your game'? What? People neck things regardless. People egg each other on when it comes to alcohol regardless. Blaming the game here is ridiculous. Again, I need to ask, was there any need for your ridiculously over the top, inappropriate dig at me? It was very appropriate in the circumstances which have already been explained to you in another thread. If you want to make further comment then I suggest you take it to pm.

I actually think it far more pathetic for someone to fabricate statements just to have a dig. http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/topic/9477-things-that-piss-you-off-that-shouldnt/?p=1225896 Right so when another team's manager isn't 'doing well', it's the clubs fault. But when our manager isn't 'doing well' then it's all his fault. Sound logic to be fair. There was nothing at all fabricated in that post. You took a completely unnecessary and stupid dig. Then you call other people out for doing the same. Slightly bad form is it not? Yes it would be bad form if what you are referring to was unnecessary and a stupid dig. It was neither. You liked a post which condoned a social network game in which a young person died. Someone who has a profession which by it's very nature should lead by example should not be doing that. Staggering that you can take any sort of moral ground regarding anything. Yeah well we all have our little crosses to bare Stefan don't we.

I actually think it far more pathetic for someone to fabricate statements just to have a dig. http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/topic/9477-things-that-piss-you-off-that-shouldnt/?p=1225896 Right so when another team's manager isn't 'doing well', it's the clubs fault. But when our manager isn't 'doing well' then it's all his fault. Sound logic to be fair. There was nothing at all fabricated in that post. You took a completely unnecessary and stupid dig. Then you call other people out for doing the same. Slightly bad form is it not? Yes it would be bad form if what you are referring to was unnecessary and a stupid dig. It was neither. You liked a post which condoned a social network game in which a young person died. Someone who has a profession which by it's very nature should lead by example should not be doing that.

So you think something which encourages young people to video themselves drinking is a game. Fair enough we're all entitled to our opinion but as we've already seen something like this very quickly gets out of control when one wants to out do the other and that has resulted in a death. Did you see the news last night where the family of the young lad that died pleaded for this craze to stop? Try telling them that its just a game and I suppose if any teachers agree with your above post what does that actually say about those who are employed to set an example to children. Yes, it is a game. I'm not sure how else you'd describe it, even if you don't like it? Drinking games aren't new. I have sympathy for the guys who died and their families. But I would say their death is way more to do with them being moronic about what they were drinking than the game. The game isn't to down pints of spirits or anything else that can kill you. Blaming the game for their deaths is like blaming the inventor of the motorbike because someone died trying to jump the grand canyon on one. Nice dig at Stefan at the end there. Classy. The problem with your 'game' Stevo is that it has very quickly lost it's original identity and escalated into a dare scenario of 'chicken' all over the social networks whereby one party tries to outdo the other and it's that escalation that has finally caused someone's death. One of the main social networks in Ireland has now banned your 'game' and not before time.

I actually think it far more pathetic for someone to fabricate statements just to have a dig. http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/topic/9477-things-that-piss-you-off-that-shouldnt/?p=1225896 Right so when another team's manager isn't 'doing well', it's the clubs fault. But when our manager isn't 'doing well' then it's all his fault. Sound logic to be fair. There was nothing at all fabricated in that post.

What a very strange post. If you look throughout this forum I really don't think i'm the only one who thinks that Lambert's signings have been poor. I have also consistently said that i'm not oblivious to the financial restrictions that the manager has had to work under. My main criticism of Lambert has always been the imbalance in his transfer policy which very nearly relegated us. Furthermore I don't think it's a pathetic statement to criticise his ratio of successful to duff signings due to the team's performances over the last two seasons which speak for themselves. I actually think it far more pathetic for someone to fabricate statements just to have a dig.

We were a billion miles away from where all of us wanted to be before Lambert came to the club and nearly two years later we are still the same distance away with another 40m plus spent.

Would you have given McLeish a new contract? I do not see how it is 'brilliant news for the club if he signs' because he has done nothing yet to be worthy of a new contract. Indeed Lambert's performance and the performance of the team under him has been more worthy of the sack.

Thats a pretty poor ratio of success from 18 players but we'll just gloss over that. Fair enough but I think, that Lambert bought some players knowing that they will improve. Helenius, Bennett, Lowton, Westwood, Luna, Tonev, Kozak, Steer and even El Ahmadi, Are you including Guzan and Bertrand in the 18? Bowery was a long shot. Holt for experience. If he adds two quality players each year on a shoestring he's doing alright, maybe that's just gloss for you. Bennett and Luna have been dropped because they have been consistently poor. Tonev has shown nothing to suggest than he is going to improve. Lambert signed the great Holt instead of playing Helenius which says a lot. Lowton has also been dropped and Steer when he plays doesn't exactly exude confidence in anyone. Bowery has been a nothing signing except for the wheelchair gif. KEA has been poor to average in that order. Guzan I don't classify as a Lambert signing and yes Bertrand (loan), Vlaar and Benteke have however been excellent while the jury is still out on Kozak. Overall as previously stated his ratio of successful signings has been poor as is his overall result record with us.

So you think something which encourages young people to video themselves drinking is a game. Fair enough we're all entitled to our opinion but as we've already seen something like this very quickly gets out of control when one wants to out do the other and that has resulted in a death. Did you see the news last night where the family of the young lad that died pleaded for this craze to stop? Try telling them that its just a game and I suppose if any teachers agree with your above post what does that actually say about those who are employed to set an example to children.

good Maybe not so good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Lambert

Thats a pretty poor ratio of success from 18 players but we'll just gloss over that.

I don't know how believable this is, but his claim we will be ending up in 'safe hands' because Lerner takes his time is BS. He takes his time because he wants to find a person that will suit HIS financial needs, not the AVFC. Maybe he means HairyHands?

My worst nightmare come true.

Yet when Bent was with us the consensus of opinion was that Bent's style was that of a dinosaur and he couldn't play with Benteke. Lambert has now signed Holt who apparently is another dinosaur and couldn't get into the Wigan team. You also remember that the manager did award Bent the captaincy which is a strange thing to do when you are going to get rid of a player due to his wages.

It's pretty annoying. But I did get "nominated" and, sadly, obliged yesterday. But that wasn't because I like it. It was merely for the fact that it's effectively daring me to down a pint. And I'm not one to turn down a challenge like that. But generally it's not just a pint is it Stevo. I've seen much younger than you taking a lot more than that and hasn't someone recently died by doing it. I only became aware of this yesterday when my fiancée showed me two young guys who work with her doing this and I was absolutely disgusted with it. Any dare like that on a social forum should just be ignored and if enough people do it even those that should know better then this latest craze will eventually end and not a moment too soon with a young life already lost.

What, our manager still doesn't learn from his mistakes.

Bent moved on because stylistically he couldn't play with Benteke. We then replace Bent with another target man similar in style to Bent who couldn't play alongside Benteke for similar reasons. Kozak picks up an injury and guess what, we sign yet another target man who can't play alongside Benteke for the same reason. Excellent stuff.

Ha, ha. Just brilliant.

We played defensively against a top 5 team who struggle to break down tough and organised defenses, if Lambert had reacted appropriately to how the game unfolded second half, we would have come away with 3 awesome points. Alas we didn't, one Vlaar mistake and a wonder goal later, we lose. We won't set up in a similar manner against those sides, possibly Newcastle, but I've not really watched them this season and don't know how they play. For West Ham, we'll most likely set up with the diamond again, similar to WBA, and we'll win, as long as Nolan is dealt with. As for Cardiff, don't let a win against Norwich fool you, they're piss poor, they hadn't won in 7 games before yesterday, and with their squad, I can't see them suddenly going on a winning run. We'll probably set up like Plop, close down quickly and try beat them on the counter, I imagine Gabby should be back by then, and I think we'll rip them to shreds, as we did for the first half v Plop. Newcastle, tough to say how we'll play, and they're almost as inconsistent as us, I don't know how we'll set up against them but i think it'll hinge on their next two games, if they hit form again, we may set up defensively, try nullify Ben Arfa, if they continue to slump, I reckon we'll go for the throat. Norwich, I imagine Lambert will desperately want to win and we'll really go at them in that game, and i think we'll set up either with the diamond or go for our 433 from last season. I think we'll set up in the ways I've outlined above, and that will get us between 7-10 points, possibly even 12, although that is a stretch. I don't think yesterday showed Lambert's "true picture", he set up in a way that stopped Everton, it worked, but he made poor decisions in the second half which cost us inevitably. We have good enough players to deal with the teams around us, but aren't quite good enough to deal with teams above us yet, hence the more defensive formations. You can't approach every game in the same manner, if you're not world class, you get quickly found out and exploited, you need to tweak for each game and sometimes even play completely different systems to counter teams. You can only play different systems with players who are good enough to adapt. We don't yet have enough good players to do that.

All those games are winnable, even the game against Newcastle who have been severely weakened by losing their best player.

More people turning up we could compete with Everton? you do know when we had comparable seasons relatively recently in 07/08 when they finished 5th and we finished 6th we averaged over 40,000 they averaged under 37k. In 08/09 when again they finished 5th and we finished 6th we averaged just under 40k they averaged under 36k. In 09/10 when we finished 6th and they finished 3 points behind us in 8th they averaged under 37k and we averaged just under 39k. Even over the last 3 or 4 years when we have dropped like a stone and they have stayed in and around the top 6 we have still had comparable attendances. Lack of support isn't the reason we have spent the last 4 seasons for the most part in or around the relegation mire. I'm going to steal the last line of your post Mark.

Along with Benteke and Vlaar Lambert's best signing if we can keep him.

I don't understand this at all. If Lambert is sticking with his favourite players then how come Weimann kept on getting game time even when he was in bad form? Delph has been a stalwart in midfield for us whereas El-Ahmadi doesn't appear all the time and Sylla barely features at all. Likewise Helenius has got hardly any game time. As far as I know most of our youth players just aren't ready yet. Tonev doesn't appear much for us anyway. Maybe because Delph and Weimann are his favourite players? Tonev has gotten game time but not lately though, that is true. I'd say sticking with Weimann when was horribly off the form shows that he is one of his favourite players. Delph has been our best player all throughout the season so drobbing him wouldn't make any sense. What does that say about the majority of his signings though?

As usual another cracking post Mark but the financial restrictions won't be lifted until we get a new owner and let's hope that comes in the summer.