Eames Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 The day of reckoning is here for Oscar P then. My money is still on a not guilty to culpable homicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 11, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted September 11, 2014 So the trial resumes today and could even reach a verdict, currently summing up the possible verdicts are below, I think it will be guilty of culpable homicide. Guilty of premeditated murder - minimum term of 25 years • Guilty of murder - range from 15 years to life • Guilty of culpable homicide (manslaughter) - suspended to 15 years • Acquitted - Pistorius walks free • Other charges (firearms charges) - maximum five years (each) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ads Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Culpable homicide with a suspended sentence and a period of house arrest, is my bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Agree with the above. Culpable homicide seems odds on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I said that to my dad this morning, I think that would be a good result for Pistorius as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Just watching it now. It sounds as though he is getting off to me. Tea and biscuits time, resumes at 11.30 (10.30 best) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) Yeah I've got it on sky news, they have just said it sounds like premeditated murder is out of the window Have they got any idea roughly what time she will come to a verdict? Edited September 11, 2014 by leemond2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Pistorius witnesses' facts 'wrong' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29143540 The judge in the Oscar Pistorius trial has questioned the reliability of several witnesses in court, as she delivers her verdict on the athlete. Judge Thokosile Masipa said humans were fallible, and may not have heard gunshots or screaming as they thought. Correspondents say this could make a premeditated murder verdict unlikely. The South African Olympic sprinter denies murdering Ms Steenkamp on Valentine's Day last year, saying he thought there was an intruder. The judge could also find him guilty of culpable homicide, or manslaughter, for which he would face a long jail term. Mr Pistorius, 27, has pleaded not guilty to all the charges he faces, including two counts of shooting a firearm in public and the illegal possession of ammunition. 'Insignificant' evidence Judge Thokosile Masipa began by detailing the charges against the athlete and repeating extracts of his testimony, reading in a slow, measured way. She then moved on to a summary of the trial. A tense-looking Mr Pistorius looked on from the dock, and then began to weep. Judge Masipa said that defence claims that police contaminated evidence and removed items from the crime scene "paled into insignificance". But she questioned the reliability of several witnesses who apparently heard screams and gunshots at the time of the incident, saying most of those who said they had heard the incident had "got facts wrong". The judge also said that the court would not make inferences about the state of the relationship between Mr Pistorius and Ms Steenkamp. The prosecution has suggested that it was "on the rocks". The BBC's Andrew Harding says the court is witnessing Judge Masipa's logic and style - gentle, tolerant of error from witnesses, but razor sharp. And he says that her conclusion that the state had not contradicted Mr Pistorius's version - that it was he who had screamed - suggests that a premeditated murder verdict is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Just watching it now. It sounds as though he is getting off to me. Tea and biscuits time, resumes at 11.30 (10.30 best) Yeah he's not getting done for murder of any description. Now thinking that culpable homicide verdict is looking like a nice compramise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 • Guilty of murder - range from 15 years to life Is my bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 11, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted September 11, 2014 Verdict could be tomorrow but no, no time given. The judge has already dismissed a lot of the evidence of the witnesses, all the evidence in relation to the food in her stomach and various other stuff. The first of the two verdicts I posted earlier already appear to be off the table and its sliding down the scale. At this rate I think he is likely to get off other than a couple of fire arms charges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Culpable homicide with a suspended sentence and a period of house arrest, is my bet. Is house arrest what it really sounds like? I.e. not prison, but he can't leave his house? Am I being dumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 • Guilty of murder - range from 15 years to life Is my bet Not a chance in hell - the judge has already as good as said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 11, 2014 Author Moderator Share Posted September 11, 2014 • Guilty of murder - range from 15 years to life Is my bet I wouldn't go near a bookies or online betting site if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Unless of course she has dismissed the majority of the state's evidence before delivering a big BUT.... Highly unlikely though, now thinking he'll walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Look at his stupid sad face, I hope he goes down for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Look at his stupid sad face, I hope he goes down for a very long time. Just not going to happen though is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Not Guilty of Pre-Meditated Murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Completely got off by the sounds of it, wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phumfeinz Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 *Pause for dramatic effect* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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