CI Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I disagree I think we have quality but lack experience and guile and a top draw DCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Our season starts on Saturday. It started at the end of August, and we've been shit since then. The table doesn't lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I disagree I think we have quality but lack experience and guile and a top draw DCM If we had the quality we wouldn't be where we are. Exactly, we lack a top drawer (quality) defensive midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We lack nouse also. If we had experience we'd have held onto all those leads we've had. Surely you can see that Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I don't worry to much about today's result. The killer for me was the failure to beat Norwich at home. A lot of the other teams around us appear to be able to pick up the odd unexpected result here and there .....we don't. I think we will go down this season - I said after the Norwich game and haven't seem much to change my mind. I think we are overating Benteke and Guzan - one has scored 2 PL goals - the other has kept 2 PL clean sheets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Jesus - we're still suffering from the hangover of the O'Neill spending spree and some people think we should be inviting Redknapp's trail of destruction to VP, that would set us back another five years. He'd come here if he was paid a clean fortune, spend a clean fortune, and then clear off just in time for us to be relegated and stuck in debt, in the Championship for God knows how long. Give Lambert a season FFS, then make up your mind. We've been on an upward trajectory in terms of performance. Today was a big set back, but no bigger than Fulham was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We lack nouse also. If we had experience we'd have held onto all those leads we've had. Surely you can see that Mantis Yes because that experience served us well in 10/11 and 11/12 at holding onto leads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Wow Kompany had such an easy day he's on MOTD tonight too !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Yes because that experience served us well in 10/11 and 11/12 at holding onto leads. Don't understand why you bother. George Carlin said it best. Think of how stupid the average guy you know is then realize half the world is even dumber than that. If you spend your life trying to reason with unreasonable people you will give yourself an aneurism. As for City. We were losing that game for sure, but it was not a 5-0 thumping. We are young and do not contain our emotions well when faced with adversity. That will improve. Our squad will also improve in January. We will be comfortably 10-14 by the time May rolls around. Let the moaners have their doom party. They probably will not have many more chances to throw one the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Jesus - we're still suffering from the hangover of the O'Neill spending spree and some people think we should be inviting Redknapp's trail of destruction to VP, that would set us back another five years. He'd come here if he was paid a clean fortune, spend a clean fortune, and then clear off just in time for us to be relegated and stuck in debt, in the Championship for God knows how long. Give Lambert a season FFS, then make up your mind. We've been on an upward trajectory in terms of performance. Today was a big set back, but no bigger than Fulham was. The club has been on a downward spiral for a while now. Although Lambert has made a lot good moves, he hasn't been able to halt the slide. I still think he is the best manager we could possibly have got - and it would make no sense to replace him. That said you can't undo 2 seasons of chaos in a few months - but I still fear we are going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Go down and we'll be down for a good while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 The club has been on a downward spiral for a while now. Although Lambert has made a lot good moves, he hasn't been able to halt the slide. I still think he is the best manager we could possibly have got - and it would make no sense to replace him. That said you can't undo 2 seasons of chaos in a few months - but I still fear we are going down. It's been on a downward spiral because it's been so unsettled. Houllier tried to change everything from top to bottom overnight and it was a disaster to begin with. Where do you think we'd be halfway through his third season though? He'd have probably sold or released pretty much every player he took over but he'd have his players and a way of playing in place. Now Mcleish was a different story as we were just utterly wretched under him. If a manager could stay for more than a season we'll snap out of it and climb up the table again. PL is the right guy. He's said we're a million miles away from where he wants us to be, but he knows that trying to change it overnight would be daft. If we stay up, and I'm sure we will we'll only get better with the stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 If Houllier hadn't had those health problems I honestly believe we'd be in an ok position right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Don't care about the whinging, we aren't going down. As stated in the Man City reactions thread - I'll take a username deletion bet with anyone, I say we'll stay up and if you think otherwise, stand up and be counted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 By the way, just a question, dont bite my head off. But did McLeish ever actually get us in the relegation zone? I know we flirted with it, but right now we are actually in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 By the way, just a question, dont bite my head off. But did McLeish ever actually get us in the relegation zone? I know we flirted with it, but right now we are actually in it. Apparently not - doesn't mean shit though at this point tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 By the way, just a question, dont bite my head off. But did McLeish ever actually get us in the relegation zone? I know we flirted with it, but right now we are actually in it. Nah, but if the season ended a couple of games later we would've. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Well. Looking back at this time last season the people who were in the relegation zone either ended up getting relegated or were Wigan who were looking like certs to go down until the last few weeks. So I fear we are not going to shake our relegation battle any time soon, most likely it will be a long grueling season much worse than last year, when really we only started to worry about it for the last couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Well. Looking back at this time last season the people who were in the relegation zone either ended up getting relegated or were Wigan who were looking like certs to go down until the last few weeks. So I fear we are not going to shake our relegation battle any time soon, most likely it will be a long grueling season much worse than last year, when really we only started to worry about it for the last couple of months. I wouldn't look into it too much. I remember when we were in the relegation zone in January a couple of seasons ago and ended up finishing 9th - and that was a more competitive season at the bottom if I remember rightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Fingers crossed you are right. Its worrying times though, dead worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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