TezzRexx Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Could Baker and Vlaar work as our pairing? Not sure on Clark yet but Baker seems to be more comfortable as a left sided CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Vlaar in midfield ? I dont think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Vlaar in midfield ? I dont think so You really think that? Normally you're so open to new ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 You can't just stick a Defender in Midfield and expect it to work, this isn't Sensible World of Soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 jesus there are people obsessed with vlaar in midfield? wtf for? as i've said in other threads nothing wrong with 3 at the back, not got a problem with it at all. can be really effective, i'd LOVE us to get playing like napoli 3 CBs and 3 threatening forwards too. not defensive at all if you don't want it to be. calling it an old formation and then harping on about 4-4-2 is a bit weird as well, playing 5 at the back with 2 wing backs was the old school way of doing it. i recon we could play a pretty good 3-4-1-2 if PL wanted to. anyway, all a bit off the subject of relegation i suppose, has anyone looked at it this way? that we'll only go down if there are 3 worse teams than us in the division? i've also heard talk of this delap lad, supposed to have a proper long throw on him... We don't have the wing backs though. Brian Little used this formation with some success for a while - but in the end floundered, mainly because you expect to much of wing back - to be succesful the wing back must:- Be able to receive the ball perhaps just inside his own half - beat a couple of opposition players - put a decent cross in Then get back and put the defensive tackles in ! and he has to be able to that on a regular basis, not just a couple of times per match. The other problem is '3' at the back - starts to become '5' at the back limiting your options going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The minute we qualified for the semi-final of the Carling Cup, we moved down one place in the table and are currently above the relegation zone on goal difference. Let's hope this isn't a copy of McLeish's last season for Birmingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 we need to start winning games in league,because its will get very hard down their if we don't perform in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 It is a shame that after a great result we find ourselves a little closer to the relegation zone. Still think we will be in a bad position by the end of this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 We need nights like this as it is soul destroying to play so well and get so little and/or to see the team taking shape in the league but not quite being there yet. So, this game has been good, but we really do need to put points on the table now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Regardless of our current position I can't see us finishing below Southampton Wigan Reading QPR Whether we string a number of good results together and shoot further up the table I can't see us below the above teams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizme Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Sunderland (and Newcastle) have a really hard set of fixtures from here until new year, they wont take many points. There is alot of clubs that will be right down there come january. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Apart from the bottom three there are 4-5 other teams I'd put in relegation battle: Us, Southampton, Sunderland, Newcastle and maybe Norwich. There's just seven points between Wigan/Southampton/Us and Liverpool who are tenth - couple of us just needs to win two games and someone with 22 points to lose couple ones and they're in the mix too. I'd love Stoke to get relegated but I doubt it, the probable teams to get relegated are QPR, Reading and one of the Sunderland, Southampton and Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Apart from the bottom three there are 4-5 other teams I'd put in relegation battle: Us, Southampton, Sunderland, Newcastle and maybe Norwich. There's just seven points between Wigan/Southampton/Us and Liverpool who are tenth - couple of us just needs to win two games and someone with 22 points to lose couple ones and they're in the mix too. I'd love Stoke to get relegated but I doubt it, the probable teams to get relegated are QPR, Reading and one of the Sunderland, Southampton and Wigan. Yes - but it is the couple of wins that have proved so elusive, Hence our position in the league. We only need to win a couple of games to climb the table - but it is our inability to do that which is why we are, where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 That couple of wins is going to become three wins, then four wins needed if we are not careful. You can see the middle of the table already starting to break away. I know it is stating the obvious but we could use a couple of wins this month in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It is a shame that after a great result we find ourselves a little closer to the relegation zone. Still think we will be in a bad position by the end of this month. That's the spirit Normal service resumed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 We need to win at least one of Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 We need to win at least one of Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs Tough call - I can see us drawing a couple though! 5 points from next four games will do for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 That's the spirit Normal service resumed Sorry do you win a prize if you're really optimistic? Last night was great but at the same time we're only out the bottom 3 on goal difference and have 3 difficult games coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Games against Liverpool and Tottenham are winnable, but will be tough and game against Wigan is a must-win. 4 or 5 points from next 4 games would be decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Regardless of our current position I can't see us finishing below Southampton Wigan Reading QPR Whether we string a number of good results together and shoot further up the table I can't see us below the above teams. Southampton are improving and are more clinical going forward than us while Wigan have been there and done it before so I could see both teams finishing above us depending on what Lambert does in the January window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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