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10 hours ago, leviramsey said:

Packers kicker Mason Crosby is now 0 for 4 on kicks from 50+ after 59 minutes played when the kick would equalize or give the Packers the lead.

He could learn a thing or two from the wonderful Jason Myers ...

21 YD FG under no pressure.... No chance .

 

50+ YD FG in the very last second to win ...Easy

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As it turns out, the Raiders' gamble on Aldon Smith didn't even yield a full season of work.

The NFL has suspended the heralded pass rusher for a full year for violating the NFL Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse.

 

 

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We're heading into Week 11 and no one still has any idea what constitutes a catch. The latest controversy came on Sunday, when it appeared that Giants wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. caught a touchdown against the Patriots ... only to have it overturned upon review.

NFL VP of officials Dean Blandino said this week that the officials got the call right.

“I know there has been a lot of debate about the rule, but it says you have to have control, you have to have both feet down, and after the second foot is down, you have to have the ball long enough to establish yourself as a runner," Blandino said. "And that doesn't matter if you're in the end zone or in the field of play. It's that element of time."

Okay, fine, but plenty of people -- from fans to players to coaches -- remain confused. That includes Giants coach Tom Coughlin, who has been involved football in some capacity since the mid-1960s.

"We've made this a very difficult call," Coughlin told WFAN's Mike Francesa, via NJ.com. "And the thing that bothers me about it is, first, the word 'runner.' There is no runner in the end zone. When a guy catches the ball in the end zone, that's it. He's not going to take another step, Mike. He's on the sideline."

Coughlin heard Blandino's explanation but he's not buying it since Beckham's play was similar to the Lions' Golden Tate, and that was ruled a touchdown back in Week 6.

"In this regard, [Beckham] does catch the ball," Coughlin said. "And if you look at it closely, he does have both hands on the ball, he does have his left foot down. Then comes Butler in, and he makes a heck of a play. The kid (Butler) is very good.

"And he knocks the ball out ... Odell had it in his hands. He did not have a top hand and a bottom hand, both hands were parallel. And the ball was slapped out of his hand. Now, the difficult thing about this ... is when you go back to the rule book, the Golden Tate precedent that was set, was a fumble that became a touchdown. I mean, he had the ball as long as, for as much time as Golden Tate did. Point-oh-seven (.07) seconds. One is ruled a touchdown, one isn't. The idea is consistency here, and it really continues to be a problem, in my opinion.

"Whatever has been determined to be a gray call, to me, is not going to be overruled," Coughlin continued. "There was a call on the field that was a touchdown. It was a touchdown. It took a couple of guys to get together, but it was a touchdown. As such, if it was really in a gray area position, I really expected that the touchdown would continue to be ruled. Where is this going to go in the future, as we look at how can we solve this issue, because it is controversial."

As it stands, what is and isn't a catch remains a mystery to most of us.

The bolded bits are a good point from Coughlin. Basically, ANY sideline catch is not a catch, because quite obviously they don't establish themselves as a runner.

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Life after Brady-Manning?

Very interesting article, though perhaps too long to quote.

Though one good part:

Sundquist has a list of organizations that he feels have the stability and leadership to nurture a young quarterback into a truly special player: the Packers, Steelers, Giants and Patriots top that list. Spot a trend? They all have quarterbacks over 30, still playing well, tied to long-term contracts. The teams that can find and develop great quarterbacks have already found and developed theirs. Perhaps that's why there was such a dearth of young quarterback talent a few years ago: Disorganized organizations burned through prospects who might have turned out better if supported by better coaches and teammates.



The Panthers and Bengals have become highly stable organizations in recent years, which is one more reason Newton and Dalton have been allowed to blossom. The Raiders look much more prepared to give Carr what he needs than they were a few years ago. Lovie Smith is not exactly a quarterback guru, but he provides a no-nonsense culture that should help Winston develop. The Seahawks don't appear to have all the answers like they did two years ago, but they are still smart and Super Bowl-tested.

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On 11/4/2015, 12:05:17, zak said:

How does this work? Think the Jags look a little low, with being in the same division as Titans. They cant be below 49er. I actually like their offence.

 

I mean could the Jags get to the playoffs? crazier things have happened

Im waiting for the new power rating..... Jags bottom SMH! :P

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Halfway through the season now (in general, I'd pick a team in a higher tier to win home or away over a team in a lower tier)

  1. Broncos
  2. Patriots
  3. Bengals, Packers, Panthers
  4. Cardinals
  5. Steelers, Jets, Eagles, Raiders
  6. Vikings, Rams, Seahawks, Chiefs
  7. Falcons, Giants, Dolphins, Saints
  8. Ravens, Bills, Washington, Cowboys, Browns, Colts, Texans, Chargers, Bucs, 49ers, Bears
  9. Jaguars, Lions, Titans

Through Thanksgiving (by request)

  1. Chiefs, Patriots
  2. Panthers, Broncos, Cardinals, Bengals, Packers
  3. Vikings, Steelers
  4. Seahawks, Giants, Bears, Bills, Texans, Lions, Jets, Colts
  5. Rams, Raiders, Falcons, Washington, Ravens, Bucs, Saints, Chargers, Eagles, 49ers, Jaguars, Dolphins, Cowboys
  6. Titans, Browns
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The ratings weight more recent (since Week 8 currently) results more highly.  Since then the Chiefs blew out the Lions (tier 4 and recently hot), Broncos (tier 2), and Chargers (tier 5).  Before that, they beat the the Steelers (tier 3) and Texans (tier 4).  As for their losses, only away to Bengals (tier 2) approaches a blowout, and the 1-point home loss to the Bears is a lot less embarrassing than it was a month ago. Combine with how poor the Patriots have looked recently and the Panthers not playing that hard a schedule of late, and the Chiefs rate very slightly better than the Patriots.

Grading Chiefs performances at scoring and keeping their opponents from scoring (for a rough idea of the scale, +4 means elite offense with elite defense (or possibly one unit so good it doesn't matter how poor the other unit is), -4 means in the running for worst team of all time), with the Patriots corresponding grade in parentheses:

  • 33-3 Chargers: +3.22 (20-13 Bills: +0.88)
  • 29-13 Broncos: +3.15 (27-26 Giants: +0.29)
  • 45-10 Lions: +2.67 (27-10 Washington: +1.32)
  • 23-13 Steelers: +1.45 (36-7 Dolphins: +2.32)
  • 10-16 Vikings: -0.95 (30-23 Jets: +1.19)
  • 17-18 Bears: -0.34 (34-27 Colts: +0.87)
  • 21-36 Bengals: -0.73 (30-6 Cowboys: +2.23)
  • 28-38 Packers: -0.76 (51-17 Jaguars: +2.72)
  • 24-31 Broncos: -0.74 (40-32 Bills: +1.03)
  • 27-20 Texans: +0.44 (28-21 Steelers: +1.29)

If the Chiefs keep up their current form, they'll be at least 10-6 and probably be the #1 wildcard in the AFC, and should easily dispatch whoever comes out of the South; they'd have a chance in Foxboro in the divisional round.

Massey's ratings (a restricted version of his ratings was used in the college BCS; his ratings are still consulted by the CFP selection committee) have the Chiefs as the sixth best team in the NFL (and I don't believe his rating weights for recency; his are 1. Patriots, 2. Panthers, 3. Cardinals, 4. Bengals, 5. Broncos, 6. Chiefs).

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Games between teams in different tiers today:

  • Vikings (tier 3) win @ Falcons (tier 5)
  • Bengals (tier 2) win v Rams (tier 5)
  • Texans (tier 4) win v Saints (tier 5)
  • Colts (tier 4) win v Bucs (tier 5)
  • Chiefs (tier 1) win v Bills (tier 4)
  • Raiders (tier 5) win @ Titans (tier 6)
  • Giants (tier 4) lose @ Washington (tier 5)
  • Jets (tier 4) win v Dolphins (tier 5)

8-1, with Cardinals (tier 2) @ 49ers (tier 5), Steelers (tier 3) @ Seahawks (tier 4), Patriots (tier 1) @ Broncos (tier 2), and Ravens (tier 5) @ Browns (tier 6) still to play.

From the odds, the expected record was 4.8 - 3.2.

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