Brumerican Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 8 minutes ago, leviramsey said: Until Sunday there had been no 80 yard TDs this season. There were four on Sunday. Were they all against the Saints ? "Who dat" ?.... waltzing through our secondary . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2015 Packers kicker Mason Crosby is now 0 for 4 on kicks from 50+ after 59 minutes played when the kick would equalize or give the Packers the lead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 10 hours ago, leviramsey said: Packers kicker Mason Crosby is now 0 for 4 on kicks from 50+ after 59 minutes played when the kick would equalize or give the Packers the lead. He could learn a thing or two from the wonderful Jason Myers ... 21 YD FG under no pressure.... No chance . 50+ YD FG in the very last second to win ...Easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2015 Quote Mike Pettine announced on Tuesday that the Browns are handing the starting quarterback job over to Johnny Manziel for the remainder of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 18, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2015 Quote As it turns out, the Raiders' gamble on Aldon Smith didn't even yield a full season of work. The NFL has suspended the heralded pass rusher for a full year for violating the NFL Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 2 minutes ago, Tegis said: Week 11 thread ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Quote We're heading into Week 11 and no one still has any idea what constitutes a catch. The latest controversy came on Sunday, when it appeared that Giants wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. caught a touchdown against the Patriots ... only to have it overturned upon review.NFL VP of officials Dean Blandino said this week that the officials got the call right.“I know there has been a lot of debate about the rule, but it says you have to have control, you have to have both feet down, and after the second foot is down, you have to have the ball long enough to establish yourself as a runner," Blandino said. "And that doesn't matter if you're in the end zone or in the field of play. It's that element of time."Okay, fine, but plenty of people -- from fans to players to coaches -- remain confused. That includes Giants coach Tom Coughlin, who has been involved football in some capacity since the mid-1960s."We've made this a very difficult call," Coughlin told WFAN's Mike Francesa, via NJ.com. "And the thing that bothers me about it is, first, the word 'runner.' There is no runner in the end zone. When a guy catches the ball in the end zone, that's it. He's not going to take another step, Mike. He's on the sideline."Coughlin heard Blandino's explanation but he's not buying it since Beckham's play was similar to the Lions' Golden Tate, and that was ruled a touchdown back in Week 6."In this regard, [Beckham] does catch the ball," Coughlin said. "And if you look at it closely, he does have both hands on the ball, he does have his left foot down. Then comes Butler in, and he makes a heck of a play. The kid (Butler) is very good."And he knocks the ball out ... Odell had it in his hands. He did not have a top hand and a bottom hand, both hands were parallel. And the ball was slapped out of his hand. Now, the difficult thing about this ... is when you go back to the rule book, the Golden Tate precedent that was set, was a fumble that became a touchdown. I mean, he had the ball as long as, for as much time as Golden Tate did. Point-oh-seven (.07) seconds. One is ruled a touchdown, one isn't. The idea is consistency here, and it really continues to be a problem, in my opinion."Whatever has been determined to be a gray call, to me, is not going to be overruled," Coughlin continued. "There was a call on the field that was a touchdown. It was a touchdown. It took a couple of guys to get together, but it was a touchdown. As such, if it was really in a gray area position, I really expected that the touchdown would continue to be ruled. Where is this going to go in the future, as we look at how can we solve this issue, because it is controversial."As it stands, what is and isn't a catch remains a mystery to most of us. The bolded bits are a good point from Coughlin. Basically, ANY sideline catch is not a catch, because quite obviously they don't establish themselves as a runner. Edited November 20, 2015 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 21, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2015 Holly Holm is a Bronco!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Kap to IR. Could well be finished with the 9ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Kap to IR. Could well be finished with the 9ers. I think he'll be a decent pick up for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 My knowledge of CFB is pretty much non-existent but are there any good QBs coming out of college this year? 9ers could well have their eye on someone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Jared Goff, Cardale Jones, Paxton Lynch, Trevone Boykin are all names I've seen banded around, with Goff the standout from what I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I think Connor Cook may go first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 26, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Life after Brady-Manning? Very interesting article, though perhaps too long to quote. Though one good part: Sundquist has a list of organizations that he feels have the stability and leadership to nurture a young quarterback into a truly special player: the Packers, Steelers, Giants and Patriots top that list. Spot a trend? They all have quarterbacks over 30, still playing well, tied to long-term contracts. The teams that can find and develop great quarterbacks have already found and developed theirs. Perhaps that's why there was such a dearth of young quarterback talent a few years ago: Disorganized organizations burned through prospects who might have turned out better if supported by better coaches and teammates. The Panthers and Bengals have become highly stable organizations in recent years, which is one more reason Newton and Dalton have been allowed to blossom. The Raiders look much more prepared to give Carr what he needs than they were a few years ago. Lovie Smith is not exactly a quarterback guru, but he provides a no-nonsense culture that should help Winston develop. The Seahawks don't appear to have all the answers like they did two years ago, but they are still smart and Super Bowl-tested. Edited November 26, 2015 by leviramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 On 11/4/2015, 12:05:17, zak said: How does this work? Think the Jags look a little low, with being in the same division as Titans. They cant be below 49er. I actually like their offence. I mean could the Jags get to the playoffs? crazier things have happened Im waiting for the new power rating..... Jags bottom SMH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 27, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2015 Halfway through the season now (in general, I'd pick a team in a higher tier to win home or away over a team in a lower tier) Broncos Patriots Bengals, Packers, Panthers Cardinals Steelers, Jets, Eagles, Raiders Vikings, Rams, Seahawks, Chiefs Falcons, Giants, Dolphins, Saints Ravens, Bills, Washington, Cowboys, Browns, Colts, Texans, Chargers, Bucs, 49ers, Bears Jaguars, Lions, Titans Through Thanksgiving (by request) Chiefs, Patriots Panthers, Broncos, Cardinals, Bengals, Packers Vikings, Steelers Seahawks, Giants, Bears, Bills, Texans, Lions, Jets, Colts Rams, Raiders, Falcons, Washington, Ravens, Bucs, Saints, Chargers, Eagles, 49ers, Jaguars, Dolphins, Cowboys Titans, Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Chiefs!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) The ratings weight more recent (since Week 8 currently) results more highly. Since then the Chiefs blew out the Lions (tier 4 and recently hot), Broncos (tier 2), and Chargers (tier 5). Before that, they beat the the Steelers (tier 3) and Texans (tier 4). As for their losses, only away to Bengals (tier 2) approaches a blowout, and the 1-point home loss to the Bears is a lot less embarrassing than it was a month ago. Combine with how poor the Patriots have looked recently and the Panthers not playing that hard a schedule of late, and the Chiefs rate very slightly better than the Patriots. Grading Chiefs performances at scoring and keeping their opponents from scoring (for a rough idea of the scale, +4 means elite offense with elite defense (or possibly one unit so good it doesn't matter how poor the other unit is), -4 means in the running for worst team of all time), with the Patriots corresponding grade in parentheses: 33-3 Chargers: +3.22 (20-13 Bills: +0.88) 29-13 Broncos: +3.15 (27-26 Giants: +0.29) 45-10 Lions: +2.67 (27-10 Washington: +1.32) 23-13 Steelers: +1.45 (36-7 Dolphins: +2.32) 10-16 Vikings: -0.95 (30-23 Jets: +1.19) 17-18 Bears: -0.34 (34-27 Colts: +0.87) 21-36 Bengals: -0.73 (30-6 Cowboys: +2.23) 28-38 Packers: -0.76 (51-17 Jaguars: +2.72) 24-31 Broncos: -0.74 (40-32 Bills: +1.03) 27-20 Texans: +0.44 (28-21 Steelers: +1.29) If the Chiefs keep up their current form, they'll be at least 10-6 and probably be the #1 wildcard in the AFC, and should easily dispatch whoever comes out of the South; they'd have a chance in Foxboro in the divisional round. Massey's ratings (a restricted version of his ratings was used in the college BCS; his ratings are still consulted by the CFP selection committee) have the Chiefs as the sixth best team in the NFL (and I don't believe his rating weights for recency; his are 1. Patriots, 2. Panthers, 3. Cardinals, 4. Bengals, 5. Broncos, 6. Chiefs). Edited November 28, 2015 by leviramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 29, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Games between teams in different tiers today: Vikings (tier 3) win @ Falcons (tier 5) Bengals (tier 2) win v Rams (tier 5) Texans (tier 4) win v Saints (tier 5) Colts (tier 4) win v Bucs (tier 5) Chiefs (tier 1) win v Bills (tier 4) Raiders (tier 5) win @ Titans (tier 6) Giants (tier 4) lose @ Washington (tier 5) Jets (tier 4) win v Dolphins (tier 5) 8-1, with Cardinals (tier 2) @ 49ers (tier 5), Steelers (tier 3) @ Seahawks (tier 4), Patriots (tier 1) @ Broncos (tier 2), and Ravens (tier 5) @ Browns (tier 6) still to play. From the odds, the expected record was 4.8 - 3.2. Edited November 29, 2015 by leviramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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