drat01 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I see where you are coming from Tony, but the fact of the matter is we could say that no past player is as good as any of the current ones, its a bit of comparing oranges with apples. The fact is though as was pointed out before, McGrath won player of the year, was consistantly put into world x1 teams by managers and players alike, so during his time, he was a genius. Olly is very very good, and maybe (god forbid) in a better team than Villa we would see him perfom even better. I think though if you compare where each of them are in the time that they played with the better training and medical staff etc, McGrath wins due to how far he was above the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey_tennis_2 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 mellberg isnt fit to clean gods boots. sure he is our best cb at the moment but he cant read a game like mcgrath could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 No Blandy ..disagreeing with you doesn't make me wrong , not sure who some people on this site think they are !! it just means i have a difference of opinion to you on a question that has no right or wrong answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Drat ..you mean like the UEFA all star squad that has Mellberg in it from Euro 2004 :-) and the 1990 & 1994 world cup all star team that did NOT include Paul McGrath ..maybe people here are confusing him with the German Magath who was in the 86 all star team :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJD Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Is there a better centre back in the prem at the moment than Olly? Ferdinand - average, but good at jumping on the back of goal scorers backs and showing his open mout, the clearing in the woods. Campbell - good, but I'd still prefer Olly as he is more mobile. Terry - good also, but positional sense and concentration in the prem and at international level sometimes lacking. Ledley King - good, could be very good, maybe on a par if you allow for Olly's mistake against Johnson. There's nobody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 i would say ollie and terry are the best ones at the moment, with king and campbell not far behind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 And McGrath was better than 'em all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 30, 2004 Moderator Share Posted September 30, 2004 No Blandy ..disagreeing with you doesn't make me wrong , not sure who some people on this site think they are !! it just means i have a difference of opinion to you on a question that has no right or wrong answer I did say "in my opinion". it's just that a view. We disagree - you think I'm wrong, I think you're wrong. It's OK, so why the "not sure who some people on this site think they are !!" comment? aren't I allowed to say I think you're wrong? If not, then, sure, yep, you're right, how silly of me to hold a different view. who do I think I am? as you so wisely pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinitytalk Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 i would vote, but because i have never seen McGrath play i wont vote, otherwise it would be a bit unfair lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahamaad Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 I do think Olly is one of the best in the prem, probably ledley King has the potential to be as good, King isvery very good, and certainly someone I would like to see in C&B. Those two have the potential to be as good as McGrath, oneday.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largelugs Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Yes, Mellberg is ONE of the best, but McGrath was definatly the best, a class above any other defender around at that time, he had something special that you don't usually have in a defender. As for what he is doing now, the last i heard he was a director at Waterford Utd in Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 last i heard he was up before the beak for urinating in public , and continuning the role of shame of ex villa players ..Collymore,Charles,McAvenvie to name a few Can't see Ollie being up for anything more sinister than worse beard of the year award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbaldie1 Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Well im voting for OOH AHHH Paul McGrath, he was class. He did make the odd mistake, but taking into account his knees were shot, & his alledged alcohol intake, he was sheer class. Olly, is one of the best around, no doubt about that, but not as good as Macca... ....YET Yes we have a friend in Jesus, Yes we have a friend in God, Yes we have a friend in Jesus, & his name is Paul McGrath.... ....who needs Cantona, when we got Paul McGrath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 1, 2004 Moderator Share Posted October 1, 2004 last i heard he was up before the beak for urinating in public , and continuning the role of shame of ex villa players ..Collymore,Charles,McAvenvie to name a few... Sadly, he's been up before a few beaks, I think the last time he was of "no fixed abode" somewhere around Manchester, which is particularly sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djc Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 If not, then, sure, yep, you're right, how silly of me to hold a different view. who do I think I am? as you so wisely pointed out. You're wrong about one thing, Blandy, IMHO of course. :wink: McGrath for me, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 tell you one thing sbaldie1's avatar is putting me in a trance like state i will vote for Paul McGrath I will not slag of Sorensen I will not argue on web forums I will sleep with me hands by my side from now on :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wif Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 McGrath was the only defender I've seen who regularly made you think "how the **** did he do that?" when he made a tackle. He knew what the attacker was going to do before the attacker did. ...Oh Lord, Paul McGrath... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bully Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 It is virtually impossible to compare players from different eras as the game is changing all the time. That said, the fact is that God was that great he won PFA Player of the Year whilst at Villa and Ollie, as good as he is, will struggle to make the best 11 when votes are cast. Imho of course. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 4, 2004 Share Posted October 4, 2004 another Mellberg goal on Sat ..another step closer to relegating McGrath from God to God's slightly inferior cousin :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaretMahoney Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Just came Across this...going thru the annals of VT and interesting Poll put up my Ahaamad...."King Olof" certainly did get legend status, didn't he!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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