leviramsey Posted October 30, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted October 30, 2013 I am now...http://www.google.com/+LeviRamsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted October 30, 2013 Administrator Share Posted October 30, 2013 I've just (this morning) activated all 3000ish of my colleagues on Google+. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 Argh I can't find any way to get a custom Google+ URL. I don't have a get button and haven't got an email. I think I pass all the tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I think it's a gradual roll out. You will probably get the email in the coming days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2013 So to get a custom url they need my phonenumber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 They're just being polite. They already know it. And your inside leg measurement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 They've got it if you have an Android phone anyway. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 1, 2013 Administrator Share Posted November 1, 2013 They've got mine for the two-factor authentication. Don't use a Google account without it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2013 *tinfoil mode* My phone privacy is way more important than a replaceable google account. Google is a business and selling "me" is their forte, and that could include phonenumbers in future EULAS. I keep nothing of note there apart from my name. As the rev said, they probably know it already but I'm not willingly giving it to them. /*tinfoil mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 1, 2013 Administrator Share Posted November 1, 2013 So your denying yourself additional security for no reason? I can't imagine my Google account being disposable. I guess you don't use yours for purchases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2013 So your denying yourself additional security for no reason? A bit yeah. We all have our little quirks. I can't imagine my Google account being disposable. I guess you don't use yours for purchases.Only for the odd apps on the playstore, I use disposable cardnumbers, one of the best features my bank offers. Make a cardnumber valid for 24 hours, buy, done, gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 (edited) I don't think it's an entirely outrageous idea to consider your Google account disposable, especially considering the exposure over the last few months that Google's user data is pretty much accessed by governments at will. Google's services are useful, but I don't want everything I've ever thought or typed permanently tied in to one account. Edited November 1, 2013 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2013 When you buy stuff on other sites, do your user accounts use gmail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 1, 2013 Administrator Share Posted November 1, 2013 I'm not sure how disposable card numbers help. If you buy an app, a track, a film, a tablet from Google Play, that purchase is linked to the account, not the card. How is your account then disposable? Surely it's better to have an account that you use for your purchases, which you protect strongly, than run the risk of losing access to.purchases or returns. I can understand having additional disposable accounts, but it makes sense to have a main account which you protect as strongly as the tools allow you to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I guess it depends how heavily invested you are in to your account. On my main Google account, I have spent maybe £30 on the Play store, and don't even use my real name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 1, 2013 Administrator Share Posted November 1, 2013 I've just spent another £300 on mine yesterday. Google will know that it's not your real name and what your real name is. But you know that. I don't see the point in pretending it's anonymous. If you want to be anonymous, don't use Google. As you know it's not anonymous, you might has well have an protected account that you use for purchases, even if you use disposable accounts for other things. Being a techie, I'd bet that your browser returns an almost unique fingerprint so I'd guess that your next disposable account is linked with your previous one the first time you browse to a page with analytics on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2013 When you buy stuff on other sites, do your user accounts use gmail?If you mean, use gmail/google as a login service, then no I'm not sure how disposable card numbers help. If you buy an app, a track, a film, a tablet from Google Play, that purchase is linked to the account, not the card. How is your account then disposable? Surely it's better to have an account that you use for your purchases, which you protect strongly, than run the risk of losing access to.purchases or returns. I can understand having additional disposable accounts, but it makes sense to have a main account which you protect as strongly as the tools allow you toIf I bought expensive stuff like a tablet, yeah, I'd start consider the account as "non desposable" and act accordingly. (If google would supply hardware through the playstore in sweden that is. As of now, I can by f***all from them) As I dont, well you get the idea. The part about using disposable cardnumbers just makes the gmail-account even more disposable. I agree that it doesnt help with anything regarding returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2013 And just to clarify, it's a quirk of mine that doesn't always make sense I once said I would never use a mobile-phone and look how well that went. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2013 When you buy stuff on other sites, do your user accounts use gmail?If you mean, use gmail/google as a login service, then noNo, I mean have an account on another e-commerce site (perhaps one with 1-click ordering?) where a password reset request sends an email to your gmail.In that case, this attack works:1. take control of your gmail account2. request a password reset on other site3. act on the link in the email4. buy stuff with the stored card number/direct debit details/etc.5. profit!Two factor authentication makes it at least somewhat harder to mount stage 1 of the attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) When you buy stuff on other sites, do your user accounts use gmail? If you mean, use gmail/google as a login service, then no No, I mean have an account on another e-commerce site (perhaps one with 1-click ordering?) where a password reset request sends an email to your gmail. In that case, this attack works: 1. take control of your gmail account 2. request a password reset on other site 3. act on the link in the email 4. buy stuff with the stored card number/direct debit details/etc. 5. profit! Two factor authentication makes it at least somewhat harder to mount stage 1 of the attack. Yes, but the bold bit will failurepoint in my case. It's a bit of a hassle but I never store creditcardnumbers, and if the e-commerce site stores it without my knowledge, the numbers will expire within 24h anyway. With all this said, I will probably cave on this 2-factor password policy at some point, but not over a custom google+ url And I will probably use a second phone/number for it. Edited November 2, 2013 by Tegis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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