Jon Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 British team is a strong one for these world championships. Cav has every chance on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Great result for Wiggins finishing 2nd in the World Championships TT. Tony Martin put in a blistering time though - over a minute ahead of the field. Lets hope Cav caps off a great year on Sunday. It was a cracking result for Wiggins but fair play to Martin - he was awesome. I felt a little sorry for Cancellara but I suppose his mistakes in the last few kms may have been down to a bit of tiredness causing some lack of concentration. The women's and men's road races are both on the Beeb red button this weekend, too (with some live on BBC1/2, I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yep - looking forward to Road Race on Sunday; am told Nicole Cooke doesnt have great form so may be difficult for her to do well. Cav. - well lets hope so ! Did anyone see the interview with Tony Martin after his victory ? Firstly, he was really modest and said it was good to pass David Millar who is a good time-triallist in his own right. Secondly, all these damn cyclists seem to be able to speak at least two other languages - poss French and English; didnt the erudite 'Gazza' belch down the mic when being interviewed in Italy or something like that ? Wonder which team Tony Martin will go to next year . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Well done, Cavendish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Amazing performance by team GB. Wiggins has gone up a massive amount in my estimation. He is a leading rider and enjoyed success earlier in the week but was willing to bury himself for Cavendish today. The finish was brilliant. Cav had no leadout train, had to go far earlier than he wanted to but was just too good. First British World Champion for 40 odd years. Looking forward to him wearing the rainbow bands next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Cav for sports personality of the year? He’s a legend already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishVillan Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Congrats to Cav and Team GB. Fully deserved. Was pretty fun having Copenhagen turned into a cycling route, though not all would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Congrats to Cav and Team GB. Fully deserved. Was pretty fun having Copenhagen turned into a cycling route, though not all would agree. Wait to see what happens when the olympics come to London and the road race goes down to Surrey! Its going to be chaos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishVillan Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Congrats to Cav and Team GB. Fully deserved. Was pretty fun having Copenhagen turned into a cycling route, though not all would agree. Wait to see what happens when the olympics come to London and the road race goes down to Surrey! Its going to be chaos... Yeah, alot of chaos and angry cardrivers. A poor young Dutch rider must really hate Copenhagen. He had his race ruined when one of our citizens decided to cycle on the route. Then, as he was giving interviews, some cheeky bikethief stole his bike. Later he tried to sell it at Christiania but they took it from him and returned it to the rider. Well done and happy 40th birthday to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I realise that this may be taking the thread OT, but with all the success of British cyclists in recent years (Olympics + TdF) do VTers view racing or club cyclists any differently on the road ? Are we still perceived as a 'nuisance' on the road or are people more tolerant now. I know riding side by side irritates some motorists even though I think it is accepted in the Highway Code when safe to do so. Proper club cyclists should single-out anyway if a car comes up from behind. In France, they view cyclists very differently and give me plenty of room on the few occassions I have ridden over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 double post - sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 heard him interviewed on the radio and it seemed as though he had a team of 8 riders who basically protect him and push him on and then he breaks free and sprints the last 200 -300m and takes the crown is that really within the spirit of winning an individual title ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 heard him interviewed on the radio and it seemed as though he had a team of 8 riders who basically protect him and push him on and then he breaks free and sprints the last 200 -300m and takes the crown is that really within the spirit of winning an individual title ? Yes, it is. Road Race Cycling like that is really a team event, even though it's classified as an "individual" title/medal. For these world chamionships though, the team is the country rather than an organised professional privately funded team of mixed nationalities. Just like the TDF, where the sprinter will win the stage/get the plaudits and the kisses off the sexy girls, and the cuddly toy, but where often he has got that win due in large part to the effors of his team. Similar to Formula 1, where a driver may win a race and get the plaudits, but he's probably largely done so due to the efforts of his team in giving him the best car/strategy etc. It's not really like the marathon for example, which really is a case of "every man/woman for him/herself". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 heard him interviewed on the radio and it seemed as though he had a team of 8 riders who basically protect him and push him on and then he breaks free and sprints the last 200 -300m and takes the crown is that really within the spirit of winning an individual title ? There is no other way of doing it really. Every good rider will tuck in behind the front runners to cut down the drag on them then try and sprint free at the end, it's the fastest way to race. It makes sense then if you deliberately ride with your countrymen because then everyone works together, then when the team gets closest to the line the best sprinter of the group gets there first. It does happen though that a mixture different riders will break away and form a group and then they start working together on the same principle that the fastest of them at the end will sprint to the win. It is not as organised though compared to if you have a prearranged plan with your countrymen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 heard him interviewed on the radio and it seemed as though he had a team of 8 riders who basically protect him and push him on and then he breaks free and sprints the last 200 -300m and takes the crown is that really within the spirit of winning an individual title ? Yes, it is. Road Race Cycling like that is really a team event, even though it's classified as an "individual" title/medal. For these world chamionships though, the team is the country rather than an organised professional privately funded team of mixed nationalities. Just like the TDF, where the sprinter will win the stage/get the plaudits and the kisses off the sexy girls, and the cuddly toy, but where often he has got that win due in large part to the effors of his team. Similar to Formula 1, where a driver may win a race and get the plaudits, but he's probably largely done so due to the efforts of his team in giving him the best car/strategy etc. It's not really like the marathon for example, which really is a case of "every man/woman for him/herself". Is it the same in the Tour de France? And what's a peloton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishVillan Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Peloton is the biggest/main group. It is the same in the TDF. Difference is that it has multiple stages, with or without mountains. Sprinters are not good climbers and very rarely (if ever) wins the tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Is it the same in the Tour de France? And what's a peloton? TDF has teams made up by sponsors rather than nationalities but they work towards getting their best rider up the pack. As DanishVillan says, sprinters struggle because they are not very good at climbing mountains. However, if you are good at sprinting you can win the Green jacket which is awards points weighted towards the flat stages (Cavendish won this in TDF). On the other hand, if you are good at climbing mountains you can win the Polka-dot Jacket which weights points towards the climbing stages. To win the overall Yellow Jersey though you need to be an all-rounder rather than a specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 To win the overall Yellow Jersey though you need to be an all-rounder rather than a specialist. I thought you just had to be good at taking drugs ..and not getting caught :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunRickyRun Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 What makes Cav great is his ability to deal with the expectation. He relies on his team mates to get him into a winning position but he finishes it off time after time. Many would wilt under the pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 To win the overall Yellow Jersey though you need to be an all-rounder rather than a specialist. I thought you just had to be good at taking drugs ..and not getting caught :winkold: FTW! I can't for the life of me think why the words Lance and Armstrong are popping into my head .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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