Oaks Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Come on, he was NEVER gonna get SHA playing like Barca was he..... Style of play whilst there is irrelevant really I somewhat agree, i actually quite like McLeish as a man, always have done, always thought he was too good for them lot. But 2 relegations in 4 years is not good enough for us. And i just dont think McLeish is a viable candidate looking at fans reactions its almost impossible. If we do appoint him, he would have to start the season off like a rocket, and when a bad patch comes along, it will get nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Come on, he was NEVER gonna get SHA playing like Barca was he..... Style of play whilst there is irrelevant really No it isn't. Managers have philosophies, how many managers in the game do you see change their way they manage clubs regularly depending on their club? Martinez doesn't get Wigan playing like Barca but he certainly gives a passing game a go because that's his style. McLeish is a very negative manager and it wouldn't change here. Maybe not to the extent, just like when O'Neill was at Leicester, we'd just see a slightly better game, mainly because we have better playes. We wouldn't see a change of style though from what McLeish usually manages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittain22 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I don't think he's that bad, but if we are basing our search on 'Premiership Experience'. Relegated, 9th, Relegated - cannot be a viable option. I'll be so glad when this circus is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted June 14, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted June 14, 2011 Did he play shit football at Rangers? (Serious question). Or does he just play that at SHA because the players are of limited ability? Was thinking the same thing this morning. He obviously had a decent amount of success there but from looking at some Rangers forums this morning, it doesn't appear that he is very highly rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 No O'Neills sides are direct. McCleish sides are negative antifootball. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_The_Villan Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I mean if we finish in the top 7 with Eck and Blues stay in the championship, I'd be a very happy man. Be a big **** you to Blues too. Exactly. It should be the noses who are pissed off about the whole thing, not Villa fans. We're taking a manager from them whos won them thier first silverware in fook knows how long. Yes, they got relegated, but were talking blues here...they were ALWAYS likely to get relegated, even with Mourinho managing them. I think the fact that McLeish (apparently) wants the job speaks volumes about the man. Obviously a strong character who couldnt give a toss what fans think - he just wants to do the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misanthrope Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Please save trying to delude yourselves until he's at the press conference. You'll need the energy then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Well, Whilst trying to calm down over the mcleish situation i thought i would check out the mans stats as a player and manager. Please dont rip my nuts off but his managerial record aint that bad. motherwell , hibs , rangers , scotland and small heath. motherwell promotion , hibs 3rd in league , scotland 7 wins out of 10 miss out on last qualifier , rangers last 16 champions league , small heath , highest league finish for 50 years and first trophy for 48 years . oh and 12 game unbeaten run for blues in prem. Dont ram me up the bum but they would have stayed up easy if not for losing keay defenders. We stayed up because of darren bent. We have better players and more investment available , who knows? Good post. McLeish aint a bad manager. I wouldnt be against giving him a crack at it. We could do worse tbh As time goes by I'm starting to agree also. I spent 48 hours in a nightmare at the prospect, but the more I think about, the less it feels like bringing in Eck would be in fact the end of the world. I mean if we finish in the top 7 with Eck and Blues stay in the championship, I'd be a very happy man. Be a big **** you to Blues too. Plays shit football Loves relegation He can suck my giant cock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 No O'Neills sides are direct. McCleish sides are negative antifootball. Big difference. I meant in terms of O'Neill game didn't change much from Leicester to Villa .... not comparing O'Neill to McLeish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuintonK6 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 **** me what's going on ? Nearly a whole page of McLeish loving!! I feel sick at the thought of this nob jockey even being named in the same breath of our club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 No Wandy you cant have Arex unwess you pay £8millyon dowars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grievemeister Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Apparently the guys who have organised the Facebook protest have written a letter and handed this to Villa PR & Media who have promised to respond. Father Abraham has also asked for a copy for the E & S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_The_Villan Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Come on, he was NEVER gonna get SHA playing like Barca was he..... Style of play whilst there is irrelevant really No it isn't. Managers have philosophies, how many managers in the game do you see change their way they manage clubs regularly depending on their club? Martinez doesn't get Wigan playing like Barca but he certainly gives a passing game a go because that's his style. McLeish is a very negative manager and it wouldn't change here. Maybe not to the extent, just like when O'Neill was at Leicester, we'd just see a slightly better game, mainly because we have better playes. We wouldn't see a change of style though from what McLeish usually manages. David Moyes uses negative tactics, so does Rafa Benitez - but i see loads of people wanting them here?? Whats the difference? Oh thats right...he managed blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Exactly. It should be the noses who are pissed off about the whole thing, not Villa fans. We're taking a manager from them whos won them thier first silverware in fook knows how long. Yes, they got relegated, but were talking blues here...they were ALWAYS likely to get relegated, even with Mourinho managing them. I think the fact that McLeish (apparently) wants the job speaks volumes about the man. Obviously a strong character who couldnt give a toss what fans think - he just wants to do the job Birmingham would never relegate under Jose Mourinho. Their team is better than relegation, just like West Ham, but under the wrong manager the players will not perform out of their skin. And no, him taking this job has got nothing to do with guts. He is out of a job, he is never going to get a better offer from a better clubs - because all other chairman know what limited ability he will bring. Not just to the pitch and in terms of final placement in the table, but his lack of flair, lack of attacking tactics correlated with lack of people in the stands, players who would never joing because of him etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Relegated blues. 37 goals. 8 wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardvillan Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I see some Villa fans are coming round to the idea of McLeish, subtly outlining the qualities he will bring. I think people are in denial. IF he does become our manager, i will never stop supporting my beloved club. But, say goodbye to any hope of moving forward and showing progression. His appointment to me would just IMPLY desperation and scraping the barrel. IF people honestly believe that once Houllier left that out of all the managers out there, McLeish would even be in the thoughts of the Villa board, then you are deluded. Sorry to be blunt, but IF he was on our shortlist and is being interviewed; I would be seriously questioning the direction of our club. Answer me this, would McLeish have been in the Villa boards mind long before the end of the season? If so, can you imagine if Birmingham had stayed up and the uproar that would have caused? Or was it once Birmingham were relegated, Villa accessed their options and actually believed, McLeish; a guy who got our City rivals relegated; yet won a trophy, would be the answer all Villa fans were craving?? It just doesn't sit right with me. There isn't any smoke and mirrors going on. The thought that McLeish has always been our prime target sends chills down my spine. So I refuse to believe that. So what does that leave me thinking....Well, regardless of how people are trying to sugar-coat it, and I have been one of the people defending our board and how they have gone about their business so quietly and professionally; they have made a mess of things, and he is our last resort. But I will reserve judgement until after he is appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Come on, he was NEVER gonna get SHA playing like Barca was he..... Style of play whilst there is irrelevant really No it isn't. Managers have philosophies, how many managers in the game do you see change their way they manage clubs regularly depending on their club? Martinez doesn't get Wigan playing like Barca but he certainly gives a passing game a go because that's his style. McLeish is a very negative manager and it wouldn't change here. Maybe not to the extent, just like when O'Neill was at Leicester, we'd just see a slightly better game, mainly because we have better playes. We wouldn't see a change of style though from what McLeish usually manages. David Moyes uses negative tactics, so does Rafa Benitez - but i see loads of people wanting them here?? Whats the difference? Oh thats right...he managed blues. No. Rafa Benitez has won major cups and David Moyes has consistently finished in the top 7/8 ......while McLeish has got his side relegated twice. :? Neither play as negative as McLeish either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik986 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Rafa and Moyes are more direct. AM plays 9 at the back with one up top. Its like he doesn't wanna score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittain22 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Come on, he was NEVER gonna get SHA playing like Barca was he..... Style of play whilst there is irrelevant really No it isn't. Managers have philosophies, how many managers in the game do you see change their way they manage clubs regularly depending on their club? Martinez doesn't get Wigan playing like Barca but he certainly gives a passing game a go because that's his style. McLeish is a very negative manager and it wouldn't change here. Maybe not to the extent, just like when O'Neill was at Leicester, we'd just see a slightly better game, mainly because we have better playes. We wouldn't see a change of style though from what McLeish usually manages. David Moyes uses negative tactics, so does Rafa Benitez - but i see loads of people wanting them here?? Whats the difference? Oh thats right...he managed blues. And been relegated twice out of three goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 please dont compare McLeish to Moyes or Rafa thats embarrasing talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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