Villarocker Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Another thing I wanted to say was this; someone posted the other day that our current situation reminds him of The Damned United. I watched that film today and can see the similarities. A successful group of players who respected their manager took offence at the new regime and refused to play for him in order to get him out. All sounds pretty familiar with what's been going on, apart from the fact that successful team had recently won things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellyoakvilla Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think if we are to keep Houllier then we must surely get a better number two than Gary **** Mcallister. I know keeping Houllier isn't what everyone wants but maybe Kev Mac as number 2 instead because Mcallister is clueless and surely he's not helping. What has he actually done since he's been here? This job is too big for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think if we are to keep Houllier then we must surely get a better number two than Gary **** Mcallister. I know keeping Houllier isn't what everyone wants but maybe Kev Mac as number 2 instead because Mcallister is clueless and surely he's not helping. What has he actually done since he's been here? This job is too big for him What has he done his whole career as a number one or a number two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Someone has said it. Ray Wilkins. Whoever next Gaffer is or well now..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think if we are to keep Houllier then we must surely get a better number two than Gary **** Mcallister. I know keeping Houllier isn't what everyone wants but maybe Kev Mac as number 2 instead because Mcallister is clueless and surely he's not helping. What has he actually done since he's been here? This job is too big for him I'm not really sure what proof there is for this? I mean, you might be right, but unless we actually attend all the training sessions it's pretty difficult to know if he's that crap. Unless someone has some inside information on him. Just strikes me as scapegoating a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Another thing I wanted to say was this; someone posted the other day that our current situation reminds him of The Damned United. I watched that film today and can see the similarities. A successful group of players who respected their manager took offence at the new regime and refused to play for him in order to get him out. All sounds pretty familiar with what's been going on, apart from the fact that successful team had recently won things!What I don't get is, they clearly wanted to play for him against Chelsea. Even against Sunderland they put effort in, they were just pretty crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 We need tha French bloke who was successful with him in his 1st few years at Liverpool and was at Lyon with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 What I don't get is, they clearly wanted to play for him against Chelsea. Even against Sunderland they put effort in, they were just pretty crap. I'm not sure they put that much effort in against Sunderland. It was clearly a much worse performance over 90 minutes regardless of the result. My worry is that our two best performances have been against Chelsea and Man U, and that the players may be raising themselves for the bigger teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Either way though, it's not 'clear' that they wanted to play for the manager against Chelsea, just that they played quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 We need tha French bloke who was successful with him in his 1st few years at Liverpool and was at Lyon with him. That reminds me of The afore-mentioned film again - Clough without Taylor!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellyoakvilla Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think if we are to keep Houllier then we must surely get a better number two than Gary **** Mcallister. I know keeping Houllier isn't what everyone wants but maybe Kev Mac as number 2 instead because Mcallister is clueless and surely he's not helping. What has he actually done since he's been here? This job is too big for him I'm not really sure what proof there is for this? I mean, you might be right, but unless we actually attend all the training sessions it's pretty difficult to know if he's that crap. Unless someone has some inside information on him. Just strikes me as scapegoating a little. It's not really scapegoating, nor is it pushing the blame away from Houllier because I am well aware of the mess he has contributed to, but I simply do not think Mcallister is the right man to be an assistant. I would much rather prefer someone like Ray Wilkins, Chris Hughton (don't think he would come here to be number two) or Kevin MacDonald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 A good number 2 can be as important as a good number 1, unfortunately we don't have neither it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-67 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Steve Clarke, ex-Chelsea and West Ham is still free. Supposed to be a very good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Either way though, it's not 'clear' that they wanted to play for the manager against Chelsea, just that they played quite well.So how come when they don't play well it's deemed that they don't want to play for the manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaztonVilla Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 If MacAllister is equally to blame, is Sid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think it's much harder from the outside to judge a good number two than it is a good number one, that's all. It's often only apparent when the partnership splits up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 6, 2011 Moderator Share Posted January 6, 2011 Does anyone feel that he might just crack under the strain of it all - can we add a new option to the poll? And can somebody please add the punch line to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Either way though, it's not 'clear' that they wanted to play for the manager against Chelsea, just that they played quite well.So how come when they don't play well it's deemed that they don't want to play for the manager? I don't think it's that simple. The fact that they don't want to play for the manager isn't simply taken from a bad performance but also all the reports of unrest within the camp. If you just looked at the results alone and said they were because the players didn't want to play for the manager, that would be pretty presumptious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jat_r Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I would like to see us bring in some more coaches. Could bring in the old Chelsea duo of Steve Clarke and Ray Wilkins. Doubt either would come of if GH would want them but I wouldn't mind as both have good credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellyoakvilla Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 If MacAllister is equally to blame, is Sid? Of course he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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