AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Ireland will have been rated by the Man City researcher. Albrighton is nothing like pace 15, that is the main thing lacking in his game the little bit of pace that can carry him beyond a fullback. Downing was rated last year by the Middlesbrough researcher and to be honest I don't disagree with many of his attributes, based on last season he was overrated if anything. Albrighton doesn't exactly seem to be slow. :? quicker than Milner anyway from what I've seen. Anyway, surely you've got to rate his current ability a little bit on potential. He's playing so well for us, it'd be a shame to get the game and then find out he's still wank and we have to send him on loan because simply when you play him in the Prem, he ain't good enough. No, he is not slow, that has never come into the equation. I rate him about the same as Milner to be fair. I understand what you are saying, but that doesn't really make sense. How can I rate his current ability based on his potential? What I mean, base potential on his future i.e. how good he will be at his peak, in say, 4/5/6/7 years, but take into consideration for this season his potential for this season on his current ability. I mean, he's shown IMO already that he can do it and although we won't see him in many senior games before season is out, it seems pretty obvious he's going to play games this season and I think the ratings should just show that a little, that he is good enough already to be part of a Premiership team. Because from what we will get on FM11 release day is an Albrighton who isn't ready when well, he is. You want him to be in your squads but then you realise he's not good enough on the game to be despite in real life....being good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 Ireland will have been rated by the Man City researcher. Albrighton is nothing like pace 15, that is the main thing lacking in his game the little bit of pace that can carry him beyond a fullback. Downing was rated last year by the Middlesbrough researcher and to be honest I don't disagree with many of his attributes, based on last season he was overrated if anything.One big problem I do have is that, whilst I think most of the ratings are spot on it seems a lot of other people rate clubs like 10 year old fans. Compare Barry to Petrov on that game, is Barry that much better than Petrov really? I wouldn't say so, the differences are minimal IMO. I mean, Barry's pace is 11 in that game, meaning that he runs about as fast as Albrighton and Milner. What the ****? I agree with almost everything else, particularly Carew, Gabby and our entire defense. Just, midfield to me seems absolutely dire, even Hull are technically better than Villa on FM. Something wrong there. Barry is mainly my fault to be fair. That said he was brilliant for Villa and far better than Petrov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 Hi Andy. I think you do a very good job with the Villa team on the whole. Shame the same can't be said about that over-zealous Spurs researcher. It seems they are all like Glaston, ridiculously over-rating their team! They consistently win the league in my game. Anyway! What I wanted to ask was for a few more details on how player data affects the match engine. For example, is it better to have high CA or high attributes, or even a high 'positional rating' from Genie Scout. I have previously been told that one-footed players have boosted attributes. If this is true, players can have similar technical attributes but a noticeably different CA. Would the better player always be the one with higher CA? The match engine doesn't take CA into account, purely attributes. The attributes make up the CA and are weighted based on position, so a striker with top end key attributes is going to have a high CA. One footed players don't have boosted attributes. A two footed player with high attributes is going to have a higher CA than a one footed player with the same attributes purely because he has the ability to play with both feet. One thing I would suggest is that you ignore CA and PA, look at attributes and how the player performs in game. Gabby was running around with a CA of 148 scoring better than a goal a game because his attributes made him effective in the match engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 Ireland will have been rated by the Man City researcher. Albrighton is nothing like pace 15, that is the main thing lacking in his game the little bit of pace that can carry him beyond a fullback. Downing was rated last year by the Middlesbrough researcher and to be honest I don't disagree with many of his attributes, based on last season he was overrated if anything. Albrighton doesn't exactly seem to be slow. :? quicker than Milner anyway from what I've seen. Anyway, surely you've got to rate his current ability a little bit on potential. He's playing so well for us, it'd be a shame to get the game and then find out he's still wank and we have to send him on loan because simply when you play him in the Prem, he ain't good enough. No, he is not slow, that has never come into the equation. I rate him about the same as Milner to be fair. I understand what you are saying, but that doesn't really make sense. How can I rate his current ability based on his potential? What I mean, base potential on his future i.e. how good he will be at his peak, in say, 4/5/6/7 years, but take into consideration for this season his potential for this season on his current ability. I mean, he's shown IMO already that he can do it and although we won't see him in many senior games before season is out, it seems pretty obvious he's going to play games this season and I think the ratings should just show that a little, that he is good enough already to be part of a Premiership team. Because from what we will get on FM11 release day is an Albrighton who isn't ready when well, he is. You want him to be in your squads but then you realise he's not good enough on the game to be despite in real life....being good enough. His potential is based on exactly that, how good he can be at his peak. Attribute wise, he should be able to do a job for you and his PA should make him more than capable of being a regular at Premier League level, perhaps higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 What is Albrighton's pace on the game by the way? 13/14? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 12 for FM2010, acceleration of 15. He is quick off the mark but I don't think he has top end speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Fair enough yeah. I'd agree with that. Just make him playable this year, make him similar stats to Messi if possible I's only what the Spurs person would do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davies4England Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 How do you rate the staff such as the coaches, physios, scouts etc? I have no problem with ours, but it must be tricky to give attributes to some of the staff which are out of the limelight. Obviously the likes of McAndrew and McDonald are pretty easy to rate though, and they seem pretty spot on to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 We have scouts!??!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davies4England Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Yeah that Mel Machin (IIRC) if **** horrendous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I sack most of them anyway!! Andy, what exactly do youth coaches do? Don't normal coaches just do the exact same job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 How do you rate the staff such as the coaches, physios, scouts etc? I have no problem with ours, but it must be tricky to give attributes to some of the staff which are out of the limelight. Obviously the likes of McAndrew and McDonald are pretty easy to rate though, and they seem pretty spot on to me. With great difficulty! I've seen some of them in action at youth and reserve games so you can pick up some of their personality. Other than that it is picking up any snippet of information that is flying around and using it to build the profile. Scouts are difficult because there is no way of knowing where they are, who they are watching and who they recommend. That said, there is occasionally information around which makes it easier to make an educated guess, although I don't think I've really touched any of our scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 I sack most of them anyway!! Andy, what exactly do youth coaches do? Don't normal coaches just do the exact same job? Youth coaches only coach the youth players at the club. Normal coaches can do both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 How do you rate the staff such as the coaches, physios, scouts etc? I have no problem with ours, but it must be tricky to give attributes to some of the staff which are out of the limelight. Obviously the likes of McAndrew and McDonald are pretty easy to rate though, and they seem pretty spot on to me. although I don't think I've really touched any of our scouts. I hope not. :shock: Oh and on the coaches bit.....so pointless really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 Didn't mean that to sound dodgy! It is realistic in some respects, just allows you to distinguish between the youth and seniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I know, but I don't want to be wasting money and wages on youth team staff! Although might do now they've added to the training part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I'll explain it for completeness!! Simply put, you can't have the transfer budget and the players that the club have already signed. SI choose to go down the route of including all transfers up to the end of the window. The same thing crops up every year with gamers fed up because they have a measly £3million to spend. thanks for explaining that andy and yes as kiddy said i ahvent read all the threads stevo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 21, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted August 21, 2010 I'll explain it for completeness!! Simply put, you can't have the transfer budget and the players that the club have already signed. SI choose to go down the route of including all transfers up to the end of the window. The same thing crops up every year with gamers fed up because they have a measly £3million to spend. thanks for explaining that andy and yes as kiddy said i ahvent read all the threads stevo Yeh sorry, I answered that like a dickhead! My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 21, 2010 Author Share Posted August 21, 2010 I reckon that I and the other researchers (in their own threads) will have to answer the same question at least 3 or 4 times each on the official boards come release day!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 22, 2010 Author Share Posted August 22, 2010 Today goes to prove the point as to why judgements need to be made over a period rather than on individual games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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