Mandy Lifeboats Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Rumour has it that the storm shadow attack on Sevastopol took out VICTOR SOKOLOV He is or was the Admiral of the Black Sea Fleet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: That’s a Stormshadow alright Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: After the Ukraine war the entire border will need to be fortified by Russia. Good job they've got loads of money to pay for it now then. Oh wait........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Joke of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sidcow Posted September 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) It's funny how difficult propaganda can be at times these days. A few days ago The Eurasian Times which publishes a lot of Russian propaganda ran a story about a failed mass Storm Shadow attack launched by Ukraine. Claims all 8 missiles were shot down by Russia who had learned lessons and knew how to intercept them and render them ineffective. This unequivocally shows that as utter bollocks and clear Propaganda. They've now mastered the missile that today destroyed their Fleet Headquarters? Yeah, sure boys, there is video evidence out there of these missiles slamming into one of the highest grade military target's they could aim at. Edited September 22, 2023 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: This war has been a strategic disaster for the Russian Navy. Their 3 main navy bases in Europe are - St Petersburg. Now only accessible by navigating a narrow approach that now has a NATO country on both sides. Anything getting through that channel faces the Baltic Sea surrounded by NATO on all sides before trying to escape into the North Sea via the narrow passages through the Danish islands. Sevastopol. Boom. Murmansk. The home of the northern fleet this base is supplied by 1 railway and 1 road that are just over the Finnish border. The rail line and road pass through hundred of miles of thick forests, lakes and mountains. Its perfect terrain for the Finns. Supply by sea is severely limited in the winter due to ice. After the Ukraine war the entire border will need to be fortified by Russia. This is also the line that brings Russian nuclear weapons down south for potential launch. Finland joining NATO, has made that scenario so much more difficult for the Russians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) It's difficult to believe Russia doesn't have retribution attacks planned in response to the Sevastopol naval base strike but I'm slightly surprised nothing out of the ordinary has been reported yet. Hopefully that speaks to their lack of credible options. Edited September 25, 2023 by brommy Spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 24, 2023 Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, brommy said: It's difficult to believe Russia doesn't have retribution attacks planned in response to the Sevastepol naval base strike but I'm slightly surprised nothing out of the ordinary has been reported yet. Hopefully that speaks to their lack of credible options. A lot of the missile attacks with Kaliber missiles would have been coordinated from there. Something that isn’t as widely reported is that the Ukrainians completely took out the location of the backup fleet HQ a few days earlier. So not only will they have lost a good number of HQ staff they’ve lost their contingency HQ too its not easy to recover from that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 Big big advert for allowing people to work from home. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 25, 2023 8 hours ago, brommy said: It's difficult to believe Russia doesn't have retribution attacks planned in response to the Sevastopol naval base strike but I'm slightly surprised nothing out of the ordinary has been reported yet. Hopefully that speaks to their lack of credible options. True. In previous "statement" attacks by Ukraine, Russia has usually launched mass missile attacks in retaliation. Not this time it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 So apparently Ukrainian special ops are in Sudan taking out Russian (wagner) troops and RSF groups. Go on Ukraine. I'd love for you to hunt down all these war criminals wherever they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 34 minutes ago, sidcow said: True. In previous "statement" attacks by Ukraine, Russia has usually launched mass missile attacks in retaliation. Not this time it seems. Russia has a limited stock. I think they are stockpiling them to make large attacks on the power grid during the winter. That will be their retribution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, magnkarl said: So apparently Ukrainian special ops are in Sudan taking out Russian (wagner) troops and RSF groups. Go on Ukraine. I'd love for you to hunt down all these war criminals wherever they are. I find that hard to believe. Surely their special forces will be engaged far closer to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, LondonLax said: I find that hard to believe. Surely their special forces will be engaged far closer to home. Do remember that Israel did exactly the same thing to the nazis around the globe when they were fighting against pretty much all their neighbours after WW2. These SOF are likely small teams operating under the foreign intelligence office. They've likely judged that stopping Russia in Africa is a good idea as Putin is getting rich on African gold and diamonds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Do remember that Israel did exactly the same thing to the nazis around the globe when they were fighting against pretty much all their neighbours after WW2. These SOF are likely small teams operating under the foreign intelligence office. They've likely judged that stopping Russia in Africa is a good idea as Putin is getting rich on African gold and diamonds. Ukraine? Possibly. But there are plenty of other countries that have reason to undertake this operation. Regardless of who did it...........well done chaps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 The Russian Army has proven that if you have an enemy surrounded on 3 sides and have better weapons with a longer range and a bigger army, richer economy and bigger country that its perfectly possible to keep some of your naval fleet intact and minimise attacks in your capital city at the cost of 200,000 dead troops and 50% or your total military capacity. Good job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 I just learnt that Ukraine is now the most mined country in the world. What a nightmare. Poor Ukraine. No countries should still be using mines, shame on you Putin and Russian military leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: Ukraine? Possibly. But there are plenty of other countries that have reason to undertake this operation. Regardless of who did it...........well done chaps! Whoever sent in the videos have Ukrainian language in their drone GUI though, but that could just be Ukrainian drone manufacture. Either way, well done ridding the world of more Wagner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 25, 2023 Moderator Share Posted September 25, 2023 So who is actually running Wagner now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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