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1 hour ago, bickster said:

This is worth 12 minutes of your time, It's a translated interview with Andrey Piontkovsky, aRussian mathemetician, political writer, anylyst and former Putin opposition activist, who has been living in exile

This is about what is going on in Russia behind the headlines and how the warlords like Kadyrov (Chechens), Prigozhin (Wagner) and others including Shiogu (Minister of Defence) are assembling private armies in readiness for the inevitable civil war that will erupt when (not if) Russia loses and Putin is gone. It references some things I hadn't heard, like Kadyrovs New Years address where he said that they had commited enough troops already and some I had but hadn't realised the significance like when Prigozhin was taking by the Russian bodybags and then went to meeet Ukrainian POWs and saying this story needs to be over (most accounts foucused on the bodybags bit). I also didn't realise that Shoigu was also buiding a private army

The idea here is that these warlords know the war is lost and they are preparing for the aftermath. This was talked about some time back and it hasn't really been mentioned much since

 

Really interesting piece. It's actually quite disturbing. If Russia post Putin becomes fractured by several different warlords all pursuing the same goals. Especially if civil war breaks out, it could end up in a real mess. It also seems Putin not only underestimated Ukraine but has probably underestimated those closest to him, all with their own ambitions in mind. And most certainly has given them too much power in order to stay in power.

The future of Russia is a massive conundrum. Ideally you'd want someone like Navalny to take power post Putin, slowly bring Russians around to a future being a democracy. Very unlikely anytime soon though.  

 

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19 minutes ago, avfc1982am said:

Really interesting piece. It's actually quite disturbing. If Russia post Putin becomes fractured by several different warlords all pursuing the same goals. Especially if civil war breaks out, it could end up in a real mess. It also seems Putin not only underestimated Ukraine but has probably underestimated those closest to him, all with their own ambitions in mind. And most certainly has given them too much power in order to stay in power.

The future of Russia is a massive conundrum. Ideally you'd want someone like Navalny to take power post Putin, slowly bring Russians around to a future being a democracy. Very unlikely anytime soon though.  

 

It is very concerning. The prospect of Nukes in the hands of random warlords doesn't bear thinking of. 

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7 hours ago, avfc1982am said:

Really interesting piece. It's actually quite disturbing. If Russia post Putin becomes fractured by several different warlords all pursuing the same goals. Especially if civil war breaks out, it could end up in a real mess. It also seems Putin not only underestimated Ukraine but has probably underestimated those closest to him, all with their own ambitions in mind. And most certainly has given them too much power in order to stay in power.

The future of Russia is a massive conundrum. Ideally you'd want someone like Navalny to take power post Putin, slowly bring Russians around to a future being a democracy. Very unlikely anytime soon though.  

 

The issue with Navalny is that he’s also a quite staunch believer in much of the race/Russian bs that Putin stands for. He’s much less extreme, but has sides to him that wouldn’t be tolerated in a democracy. He’s danced around the issue of Crimea and Ukraine for years, and is a clear cut Russian nationalist.

He’d be better than Putin, but isn’t the saviour that many profess him to be. 

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Inevitably, attention has focused on Navalny’s unpalatable past associations with Russian nationalism. His outspoken comments on topics such as immigration and his use of ethnic slurs have led many to question Navalny’s suitability as a potential alternative to the authoritarian rule of Vladimir Putin.

Such skepticism has, perhaps, been strongest in Ukraine. Navalny’s unclear position on the future of Russian-occupied Crimea and often ambiguous statements regarding Ukrainian sovereignty have generated considerable pessimism among Ukrainian audiences over his possible future role in Russian politics.

It’s worth reading a bit deeper on Navalny.

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9 hours ago, sidcow said:

It is very concerning. The prospect of Nukes in the hands of random warlords doesn't bear thinking of. 

 

Hopefully the logistics and knowledge to commission these type of weapons is beyond the figures behind these private armies but we wouldn't know that.

If Putin was to lose power would we even know, he may have already been compromised?

All these super yachts make sense, the first sign of any real trouble and he/they will make a run for one of them that's in international waters / Russian control. It's going to be an interesting couple of months. 

Thanks @bickster , great insight into the power struggles that will bring the downfall of Putin. 

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3 hours ago, magnkarl said:

The issue with Navalny is that he’s also a quite staunch believer in much of the race/Russian bs that Putin stands for. He’s much less extreme, but has sides to him that wouldn’t be tolerated in a democracy. He’s danced around the issue of Crimea and Ukraine for years, and is a clear cut Russian nationalist.

He’d be better than Putin, but isn’t the saviour that many profess him to be. 

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It’s worth reading a bit deeper on Navalny.

I agree, which is why I said someone like Navalny. I believe even Navalny has moved away from the ultra nationalist individual he once was and softened his views. Even still, I doubt any knight in shining armour is going to come along and save Russia or have the support anytime soon to change the mentality of a nation. Civil war is probably the most likely outcome with another idiot in charge.

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Really informative report from France24 regarding the situation in Bakhmut.  The frontline footage is between 2-17mins giving you a good insight to the military challenges along with the casualties and also the civilian situation. Quite startling and very much worth a watch. 

 

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So Russia captured some of Soledar by reorganising Wagner from all over, including Kreminna, which is likely to fall within a short period of time.

Kreminna is of importance due to logistical routes and being a lynchpin in the defensive line running from Svatove.

The military tactics of Russia keeps amazing me.

 

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1 hour ago, magnkarl said:

So Russia captured some of Soledar by reorganising Wagner from all over, including Kreminna, which is likely to fall within a short period of time.

Kreminna is of importance due to logistical routes and being a lynchpin in the defensive line running from Svatove.

The military tactics of Russia keeps amazing me.

 

Yep, hotting up in Kreminna. 

 

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1 minute ago, Genie said:

Can’t believe those clearly highly skilled, highly trained killing machines got captured.

Surely their laser blaster sidearms would have been more effective? 

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