andycv Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Interestingly I think this is just for the amendments to the North Stand - separate application, not yet there, for the Warehouse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted July 20, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 http://eplanning.idox.birmingham.gov.uk/publisher/docs/D6C631869BABFDAC69D5AD0AA5DA4E7E/Document-D6C631869BABFDAC69D5AD0AA5DA4E7E.pdf I think these are all new images: Personally I love it - I think it looks amazing, it's huge, it's got some fantastic facilities within it and the corner links give it a little quirkiness that I like. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, andycv said: Interestingly I think this is just for the amendments to the North Stand - separate application, not yet there, for the Warehouse. I do love that they've accidentally included one document for the Warehouse in this application by mistake - and it's the odour survey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochheads twin Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: http://eplanning.idox.birmingham.gov.uk/publisher/docs/D6C631869BABFDAC69D5AD0AA5DA4E7E/Document-D6C631869BABFDAC69D5AD0AA5DA4E7E.pdf I think these are all new images: Personally I love it - I think it looks amazing, it's huge, it's got some fantastic facilities within it and the corner links give it a little quirkiness that I like. The good news is the plan of the new stand seems to allow for a future replacement of the Witton Lane. That is, it has a symmetry that is often missing when we have replaced previous stands and been constrained by cost or council restrictions. Bring it on, the sooner the better! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycv Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 And the plans for the Warehouse are online now: https://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/Generic/StdDetails.aspx?PT=Planning Applications On-Line&TYPE=PL/PlanningPK.xml&PARAM0=1261509&XSLT=/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/SiteFiles/Skins/Birmingham/xslt/PL/PLDetails.xslt&FT=Planning Application Details&PUBLIC=Y&XMLSIDE=/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/SiteFiles/Skins/Birmingham/Menus/PL.xml&DAURI=PLANNING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 16 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I do love that they've accidentally included one document for the Warehouse in this application by mistake - and it's the odour survey Something doesn't smell right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Something doesn't smell right. Fishy even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazmonkey Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Document-B6FE53B24AB329353C663D5A4DFC9168.pdf (birmingham.gov.uk) This one shows the difference between the original plans and the resubmitted. Not much done in terms of the stand itself. Shop to be included and north / trinity corner bit different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) I assume they're basically keeping the existing dressing rooms and referee/medical areas in The Trinity Road stand to make the room for the shop and offices which were going to be in Villa Live. So that prevents whatever they were intending to do with those areas which I would assume would be extra hospitality areas within The Trinity. I can't get my head around the document called "Proposed Villa Live - Level 00" which is basically the ground level floor plan. It looks the wrong way round? The "Main Entrance" seems to be pitchside? There seems to be little interaction on the car park side? Am I missing something? Edited July 21, 2023 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 35 minutes ago, sidcow said: I assume they're basically keeping the existing dressing rooms and referee/medical areas in The Trinity Road stand to make the room for the shop and offices which were going to be in Villa Live. So that prevents whatever they were intending to do with those areas which I would assume would be extra hospitality areas within The Trinity. I can't get my head around the document called "Proposed Villa Live - Level 00" which is basically the ground level floor plan. It looks the wrong way round? The "Main Entrance" seems to be pitchside? There seems to be little interaction on the car park side? Am I missing something? I thought they were doing some glass-ceiling hospitality over the new player's tunnel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, sidcow said: I assume they're basically keeping the existing dressing rooms and referee/medical areas in The Trinity Road stand to make the room for the shop and offices which were going to be in Villa Live. So that prevents whatever they were intending to do with those areas which I would assume would be extra hospitality areas within The Trinity. I can't get my head around the document called "Proposed Villa Live - Level 00" which is basically the ground level floor plan. It looks the wrong way round? The "Main Entrance" seems to be pitchside? There seems to be little interaction on the car park side? Am I missing something? The offices are moving to the rear of the warehouse building and the club shop is going to be next to the Witton which was in the original plans going to be a plant room, waste area and security. Edited July 21, 2023 by thabucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 What is the footprint of the new shop, and will it be any larger than the current one? That gets ridiculously busy on matchdays so I am hoping this is substantially bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Having a bit of a deep dive on the BCC planning portal. Application ref 2005/03451/PA is quite interesting, I think this is the original plans by Doug for the North Stand after the Trinity Road redevelopment. Has a few images of the mock up model of Villa Park I haven't seen before. Much more basic development than what we are getting 20 plus years later. It looked like they were planning to keep the lower tier of the existing North stand and then just added the upper tier and new roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochheads twin Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Did anyone notice if they had worked a bigger trophy room into the new plans? yours optimistically 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted July 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, Lochheads twin said: Did anyone notice if they had worked a bigger trophy room into the new plans? yours optimistically Why do you think we now have a “Warehouse” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie k Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) The Warehouse does seem to fit in with the vibe a bit more then Villa Live but i think a big plus with the Villa Live was attracting people to the area earlier pre kick off and keeping people back after the game to slowly filter out the crowd. No im not lucky enough to get to games often and dont know the area well but with the larger crowd i assume that would have been a major plus point regarding transport congestion. Edited July 22, 2023 by Richie k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, Richie k said: The Warehouse does seem to fit in with the vibe a bit more then Villa Live but i think a big plus with the Villa Live was attracting people to the area earlier pre kick off and keeping people back after the game to slowly filter out the crowd. No im not lucky enough to get to games often and dont know the area well but with the larger crowd i assume that would have been a major plus point regarding transport congestion. That’s precisely the point of the warehouse to serve the same purposes … 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie k Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, thabucks said: That’s precisely the point of the warehouse to serve the same purposes … Oh really i must not have paid enough attention, i thought it didnt have the same amount of attractions/facilities to draw the crowd. Thats ok so : ) Edited July 22, 2023 by Richie k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, thabucks said: That’s precisely the point of the warehouse to serve the same purposes … But this is only going to hold a few hundred rather than a couple of thousand. It's a significantly smaller space. Edited July 22, 2023 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 56 minutes ago, sidcow said: But this is only going to hold a few hundred rather than a couple of thousand. It's a significantly smaller space. Wrong ! Capacity as per the Design & Access statement is around 2’500 on match days … it’s not significantly smaller either. http://eplanning.idox.birmingham.gov.uk/publisher/docs/DE78A5FFDAE05A5DD2477EC7617F88BB/Document-DE78A5FFDAE05A5DD2477EC7617F88BB.pdf 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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