sidcow Posted May 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) Braverman must really mess with the heads of the Tory racist elements. On the one hand she talks their language and says all the things they want to hear. She tries hard to implement all the polices they are crying out for. On the other hand.... Will be interesting how the nutters react if he gets rid of her. He's gradually weeding out the more insane politicians he had to get onside to get the gig. Edited May 21, 2023 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Braverman must really mess with the heads of the Tory racist elements. On the one hand she talks their language and says all the things they wany to hear. She tries hard to implement all the polices they are crying out for. On the other hand.... Will be interesting how the nutters react if he gets rid of her. He's gradually weeding out the more insane politicians he had to get onside to get the gig. They don't think they are racist though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Johnson has moved to or at least bought in a house in my constituency. Was spotted in my local Tesco this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Johnson has moved to or at least bought in a house in my constituency. Was spotted in my local Tesco this weekend. Taking tins out of the food bank trolley and trying to get Gladys on fags to sub him for a scratch card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Johnson has moved to or at least bought in a house in my constituency. Was spotted in my local Tesco this weekend. Its just the nursery unit he's building for the family he'll ignore most days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Rishi Sunak is to consult his ethics adviser on Monday to discuss Suella Braverman's handling of a speeding offence. That sounds like he’s asking “is it enough to sack her?” Otherwise it’s a simple, at least attempt to say, no harm done and try to let it blow over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 21, 2023 53 minutes ago, Genie said: Rishi Sunak is to consult his ethics adviser on Monday to discuss Suella Braverman's handling of a speeding offence. That sounds like he’s asking “is it enough to sack her?” Otherwise it’s a simple, at least attempt to say, no harm done and try to let it blow over. Nah, that isn’t what it is. It’s a delaying tactic to see if it goes away (it won't) and it is also an attempt to distance himself from any decision he may have to make (but doesn’t want to) A decent leader of any political hue with a good solid support in their party would have sacked someone doing this by now. It actually shows how weak he is because he's having to attempt to keep the nutters on board (he's got no chance) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) I still don’t understand ethics advisers. You have serious problems if you need to employ someone to tell you that you’re acting like a word removed. And even bigger problems if you then ignore them most of the time anyway. Edited May 22, 2023 by av1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2023 10 hours ago, Genie said: Otherwise it’s a simple, at least attempt to say, no harm done and try to let it blow over. Politicians amaze me They always try to do this but it never blows over. Pressure mounts, generally something else comes out of the woodwork and it all ends up a bigger mess than it ever was, but they never learn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, sidcow said: Politicians amaze me They always try to do this but it never blows over. Pressure mounts, generally something else comes out of the woodwork and it all ends up a bigger mess than it ever was, but they never learn. It’s something that I noticed changed a lot since BJ took over. Basically saying any old shit to buy a few hours reprieve without considering the fact it’ll be worse when it comes back in 24 hours time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Personally I'd say it's us, the voters, who never learn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 minute ago, VILLAMARV said: Personally I'd say it's us, the voters, who never learn. Yep, although we’re seeing that finally they/we are showing signs of realising what a bunch of charlatans are in place currently and doing something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Genie said: Yep, although we’re seeing that finally they/we are showing signs of realising what a bunch of charlatans are in place currently and doing something about it. They’ll give us a penny off beer and a promise to bring back hanging and they’ll be right back in the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: They’ll give us a penny off beer and a promise to bring back hanging and they’ll be right back in the game. As long as its public hanging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 22, 2023 3 hours ago, av1 said: I still don’t understand ethics advisers. You have serious problems if you need to employ someone to tell you that you’re acting like a word removed. And even bigger problems if you then ignore them most of the time anyway. You appear to be missing the point of an ethics advisor. It isn't to advise on ethics. I'll give Sunak some credit here, he isn't that stupid that he doesn't realise that what she's done is wrong. The ethics advisor is a tool to kick things into the long grass and when the eventual bloody obvious outcome is reached, the Ethics Advisor is a human shield to hide behind. This is all about the Tory Civil War and not about pondering whether Sue Ellen did anything wrong, as questions of ethics go, this one is pretty clear cut, either she did as said and should go or she didn't and it's been fabricated. With the amount of journalists that have this story and have for a while, it's fairly obvious they all think the events happened as described and have the corroboration required. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: They’ll give us a penny off beer and a promise to bring back hanging and they’ll be right back in the game. A penny off British beer in British pubs and it’s a winner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 22, 2023 I wouldn't put it past this lot to attempt to claim 10p off British Beer in British pubs located in Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Just now, Genie said: A penny off British beer in British pubs and it’s a winner. With Sunak stood at some bar with what looks like a novelty 3 pint glass, but turns out later to be an ordinary pint glass. Which at no point, does he actually drink from, despite much encouragement from the press. Later his spad needs to state he does drink beer and only recently downed a packet of beef scratchings. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted May 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2023 16 hours ago, sidcow said: Braverman must really mess with the heads of the Tory racist elements. On the one hand she talks their language and says all the things they want to hear. She tries hard to implement all the polices they are crying out for. On the other hand.... Will be interesting how the nutters react if he gets rid of her. He's gradually weeding out the more insane politicians he had to get onside to get the gig. Racists gotta race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted May 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2023 Also, on a side note can anyone tell me how the hell Suella Braverman is a Buddhist? I don't think I've ever before heard of a buddhist who's values can be summed up by the phrase 'pull up the drawbridge, i'm ok thank you very much'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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