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I can't see why it would be corruption - but Forest and Wolves have had the most "big" decisions go against them by some distance.

Not a **** chance

It moves back towards the ball. A very natural, instinctive movement... but his arm goes toward the ball. It's coming down slightly as the cross goes over, then flicks back out to make contact. I'm not fussed about it not being given, but I'd want it if against Villa etc.

"Yeah, fair point lads... but. really, it should be Huddersfield in the Premier League, not you guys. So just suck it up!"

Different competition, different rules.

There's loads more. I'd have to message my Forest-supporting mates, but there was a massive list that got reeled off at the pub after the Liverpool incident I'd be happy to oblige if people want to know more!

That's great, but his first name is Mohammed.

Sigh. Another shit move.

If you're getting abuse/verbals, you have every right to give it back. Doesn't matter on the level that the club is at - that's nonsense to be honest. (Although FWIW, I'd say Coventry are on a similar level to Man Utd).

I agree, but that's only because we're anti-Man Utd and/or the decision hasn't gone against us. If that offside was given against Man Utd rather than Coventry, there'd be so much less sympathy. The main issue for me is that I'm not sure how they've determined he's factually offside. Weirdly, the player looked more offside without the lines being drawn than he did when they were drawn. I don't know what the answer is, if I'm honest. The new system is a mile better so that should help, but there's always going to be horrifically tiny, marginal calls which get given as offside/onside.

I think real time it could absolutely look like Young has won the ball. It pings up in a really odd way so I've got no issue with the referee missing that. How VAR doesn't pick it up; no idea.

What? We're not on about Coventry fans - Genie is referring to Fernandes mouthing off at the Coventry keeper. I said he probably gave some verbals to Fernandes - it's what happens and is "fine" IMO. The Martinez reference is that he got verbals from the Lille fans and then gave it back; again I'm OK with that.

The new tech is good, quicker and that's basically all we need. There will always be "the edge" with offsides. It doesn't matter whether or not you want to make the rule as being level with the defender or "clear daylight" or 1m advantage or whatever - there will always be the point at which a player is 1mm 'over' that edge.

Was it small time for Martinez to shush Lille fans and dance in front of them or was that OK? It's all the same stuff.

Loads of places report on who referees support; you can just Google it. Here's one such article: "Stuart Attwell Luton Town Currently, the longest-serving referee in England’s top tier, Stuart Attwell has been presiding over Premier League games since 2008. After 183 Premier League appearances and over 200 EFL games, Attwell is a seasoned pro and enters his 16th season as a first-division ref. For the first time in his professional career, his allegiance to Luton Town will directly impact his ability to referee his club’s games following their promotion to the Premier League ahead of the 2023/24 season." (Link: https://www.givemesport.com/football-teams-premier-league-referees-support/) Just a random example

The VAR was absolutely a Luton fan - it's widely reported which team each referee supports. That said, I'm not entirely sure they'd be gunning for an Everton win? Who knows.

The thing with the handball appeal (as with the one against Grealish on Saturday) is that Young moves his arm toward the ball. For me, that's what makes it a handball. I think the first one is iffy... but then there have been so many worse penalties given this season. The handball probably should be given and the foul on Hudson-Odoi is just a stonewall penalty.

I find it weird that top leagues in these so-called big nations have differing levels of technology being used.

Don't massively mind that - I'm sure the Coventry keeper was saying plenty, it's what happens on penalties.

FWIW, they’re far happier with how the side plays. Definitely a sense that the rub of the green doesn’t go their way, though.

Man Utd rightly embarrassed and look woeful - confidence will have taken a right hit. Meanwhile, Coventry get to experience Wembley heartache on penalties for the second season in a row. That’s a win/win pals.

What?

Get your money down on multiple goals in Man Utd games: Man Utd 4-3 Liverpool Brentford 1-1 Man Utd Chelsea 4-3 Man Utd Man Utd 2-2 Liverpool Bournemouth 2-2 Man Utd Coventry 3-3 Man Utd Insane.

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