bickster

That really isn't it. I've just spent half an hour reading up on it. The IHRA saying it should not be hyphenated because there's no such body of people as the Semites so you can't be anti them, there are lots of scholars who agree with this as do many campaigners, however, there are also many Jewish media outlets (inc The Times of Israel) and campaigners who use the hyphenated form or do so when he publication they are writing for's Style Guide says they should. I believe it's mainly to counter arguments mainly in the Arab World saying that antisemitism isn't just about bigotry towards Jews but against all the people using a Semitic language (inc the Tigreans) but the term was apparently coined in Germany moons ago and has always specifically been about hatred towards Jews. I've not read one suggestion that the hyphen has been weapon used by far right groups or anything like that and the hyphen only appears in the English language. It seems to be a particularly technical argument that the average person of Jewish heritage really doesn't care either way about.

FTFY

Don't be silly, it's right out of the johnson playbook

Done

You keep digging yourself into a bigger and bigger hole

Yep, I've seen tweets complaining about it happening to them, more than once in the last few weeks

Thats been happening for a couple of weeks I believe

Read @Chindiepost above

Thats because they are. There are atheists that describe themselves as Jewish if that helps you understand this

It's like you've totally ignored everything that has gone on in the last few years in the debate about AS in the Labour Party and just dismissed it as being a total manipulation and there was nothing to see and you've been right all along

You really can't help yourself can you

That isn't what you typed in the intial post though. Like I said, if you'd replaced Jewish with Israel, I'd have agreed with you

Not really when its addressed to someone whose politics clearly lie in that direction

Its not an if. They are two different entities. One is a political construct, the other is a religion. No matter how intrinsically you think they are linked, they are separate concepts and should be treated as such As many of your far left comrades will tell you, there are Jewish people opposed to the state of Israel, there are also Jewish People in Israel who oppose what the Israeli government is and has historically done to the Palestinian people. When you conflate the religion with the state you are including all those members of the religion who actually agree with you. That is why what you said is AS

The FA Cup final was yesterday, surely the season is over

FTFY But more seriously I always had Bright Eyes pegged as Alt-folk but its also hardly in my taste sphere either, so I'm not the best to comment

Thats precisely it, you can't conflate those two for exactly the same reason This is exactly why so many people on the left of British politics are AS They just don't get what AS actually is What you've done it is specifically stated in the globally accepted definition You have to swap one word for another, if you'd put Israel there would be nothing wrong with what you'd said, I'd have agreed with it

No

Who are you going to kill in a safe seat to parachute him into?

Well actually it is, conflating judaism with the state of Israel is antisemitic. Notice how you've phrased it as a religion vs a country. That is antisemitic, it is even specifically mentioned in the IHRA definition of Antisemitism. UK Gov I'm absolutely sure you haven't done it intentionally but what you've said, is antisemitic

Certainly has the smell of the farmyard about it

Still did the Ask Fred thing and compiled the crossword in Mojo I think it was

I think you have him confused with the leader of the Labour Party

He doesn't have a Wiki page, when you think of all the no marks that actually have a page and Fred Deller doesn't, it seems a bit wrong

There were a lot of European drivers here, they've gone back home too