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Whatever it is I really like to too. Hopefully next seasons away kit or 3rd kit.

We need him back soon that is for sure.

Play the game Demi, at this level, unrealistic to be expecting to be 2nd in the league atleast with the amount of money that has been pissed up the tree? You noted exciting football at Preston & Burton. I have had more excitment out of a christmas cracker than Bruces tenure in charge so far. Any decent manager worth their salt (especially one with his promotional record and so far Villas all time greatest manager win ratio) who has spent the money Bruce has, would be able to get a tune out of 98% out of these players here and we would be 1st or 2nd right now. You cannot defend Bruces fumbling in the dark and I do not fancy having to trot half way across the country in a hope it is the lucky game where villa get something from the game because we may play some rare exciting football. You've gotta be on a wind up man.

Can't we just play the same players, style and formation we did that night he got 2 goals vs Wigan back in August?

I don't think that would work in such a key season and would cause a stinking reaction amongst fans and more hostility against Bruce. I don't think Bruce rates him enough to start him, but I feel he should be given a start in the FA Cup atleast. - all in his natural position of course.

We definitely need to bolster and get one or two experienced names in to help us along.

I would go to Man utd and sneak a cheeky loan bid for Luke Shaw, and the same with Leicester and a loan bid for Ulloa.

I just don't see the benefit of having surplus players around and I imagine we have tried to move them on, but a) they are not willing to go and drop wages why should they up sticks when they are getting gauranteed wages for doing **** all for the next 2 and a half years.

All the best

Will let you know if/when I stumble across anything.

He just need to get his head down and maintain our promotional chances but when he comes in for the critism it is his own doing in some respect. How he does it is going to be a miracle from where I am sitting. He has bare bugger all to spend in January, his only options are more loans or sell to buy; of which his only option appears to be is one of our key players as the rest appear unsellable. He has a striker at this level who could easily bang them in with the right manager around him but is awol in Australia. His own £15m signing (depends where you read) is looking a waste of money and lost all confidence under Bruce, Lansbury and Whelen not set the place alight. Other players also played out of position when we have options available in them areas?. We our now left with Samba who is basically sugarglass waiting, yet offloaded Baker to a promotional rival. (Sell to buy for FFP) I get it. Relying on 3 strikers in Agbonlahor (finished), Davis (Nakered) & Hogan (out of form), Kodja (Injured) & McCormack (Surplus)... you would go for the best option available whether it's freebie or a loan or whatever, a prolific player who will do it at this level (Ulloa or that kind) with it being such a crucial crucial season that we are promoted... ... Let's bring in Oli Mcburnie!

I agree to an extent but I just feel Bruce could be getting a lot more out of this squad than what he is. The worst case scenario as we have all seen in the last 1000 pages is not acceptable on this forum.

I ain't called for his head now? I have accepted he is here until May unless a sudden implode happened and we lose the next 5 games on the bounce. You must have dog syndrome like me.

If I was Tony Xia I would put a hold on any contract talks with anyone until the end of the season to see where we are at then. It would be insanity alone to give Agbonlahor an extension cable let alone anything else!

The list being the majority of our squad that will be left after contract expirys and loans ending will look something like: Steer, Gollini De Laet, Bree, Elmohammady, Chester, Elphick, Green, Taylor. Adomah, Thishbola, Lansbury, Jedinak, Whelen, Lyden, Grealish, Hourihane, Gardner, Bjarnasson, Hogan, McCormack, Davis That is the squad we would be left with come June 2018 if we where promoted. Scary! The bold for me highlights the players that will not cut it in the premier league now and would need to be moved on. The underlined represents our own who we would look to loan out to a team in this league and not yet ready for PL yet. The remainder I feel would do well amongst a new team which is what would be required, however. It could be a task offloading some of the others.

Granted. What happens with this squad if we where to be promoted, with FFP and a squad of players that are of no use to us of that level/Can't cut it, but still on long hefty contracts? How do we get round this issue if no other clubs will take them or they refuse to go out on loan?

But we could be achievig more Demi and the results that we know we should be getting 3 points from, can be getting 3 pts from but get 1 or 0pts from is the problem that is the hidden core to a lot of the problems. This is causes several negative ripple affects across the team as a consequence.

Agree Stevo and I get the notion spread over time can be slightly more damaging to our books. We could enter another scenario where you could suggest it to the player and he could agree to say taking 60% of his wages in them remaining 3 years to bugger off now.(Yes, why should they do that when they can all copy Richards & Agbonlahor and just sit being wage thiefs). Again okay it is difficult with first teamers to do that nowadays with the wages and contracts they are on, but surely it could be done somwwhere down the order on fringe players that have not go that long to go and are not on half as much? The other part of the coin is when a team does come in for 'player x', after all is agreed he still might even hold the club to ransom and say he will only sign for 'the new club' providing we pay him '£x millions'. So yes I agree and I get, but surely it wouldn't be that difficult for folk like Steer/Bunn, Lyden, Elphick who won't be on anymore than £50k a week and only 2yrs remaining?

True enough.. What fee are we writing off though? Surely we would now need to pay someone to get this guy off our books?

McBurnie maybe.. Add to McCormack, Snograss, Hutton... is SB trying to build the Scotland squad?

If we can't move any of them on in Jan/end of season then we really should just release them.

Don't mind some of his works. Hopefully he makes a good recovery and he will be driving home for Christmas.

So how much would it cost to release half of that croc of shite if we terminated their contracts if no one wanted them or even in loan?

Taken that one way out of context haven't you.

Newc/Everton S'oton/Leic Hammers/Arse Hibs/Rangers Both teams to score acca pays 9/1. 2pts on that for me this evening.