leemond2008 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Buy the more expensive one. You'll soon convince yourself it was the right choice! And it'll probably appreciate in value. That said, I tend to buy cheap, because I don't think I 'deserve' top-of-the-range instruments, I think they should go to 'proper' musicians. Most I've ever spent is £500 on a s/h USA Telecaster. I'd love a Les Paul or a 335, but I'd feel like a fraud. I'm the same to be honest, I paid knocking of for £900 for my Martin, my Taylor was £550, and my Takemine was about £400 but that was about 20 years ago in all fairness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: I'm the same to be honest, I paid knocking of for £900 for my Martin, my Taylor was £550, and my Takemine was about £400 but that was about 20 years ago in all fairness Personally, I feel it's pointless owning a really great guitar if you're a rudimentary player like me. Especially when I'm playing in public, where I feel can get away with playing an Epiphone, but I'd be embarrassed stumbling through my set with a Gibson or Martin. Edited June 10, 2022 by mjmooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 19 hours ago, JoshVilla said: Absolute joy to play and the craftsmanship is top notch. Glad to know someone's still keeping their standards high These are still a friend's key intruments after 30 and 40 years. Jem & Artist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Xann said: Glad to know someone's still keeping their standards high These are still a friend's key intruments after 30 and 40 years. Jem & Artist. Bottom one is a thing of beauty. Top one is ghastly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshVilla Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 18 hours ago, GarethRDR said: I would bloody love an ORM1! It was an odd one. I was on a huge Mars Volta hype and wanted to sound like Omar. Not the most versatile guitar but it's definitely got a real coolness about it. I think they're more expensive second hand now than they were brand new - wish I'd have kept hold of it for a bit longer now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: Bottom one is a thing of beauty. Top one is ghastly. In a blindfold test you wouldn't want to give it back. Steve Vai wanted to actually design a guitar and not just be paid for using his name. He knew his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshVilla Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Xann said: Glad to know someone's still keeping their standards high These are still a friend's key intruments after 30 and 40 years. Jem & Artist. The Artist on the bottom is a beauty. Never really been into the Jems personally but I can see why people buy them for sure. I really wanted the Scott LePage signature initially but, lo and behold, no lefty available 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Xann said: In a blindfold test you wouldn't want to give it back. Steve Vai wanted to actually design a guitar and not just be paid for using his name. He knew his stuff. Three most important factors in choosing a guitar: 1. How it looks 2. How it looks. 3. How it looks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Back in the 60's , Ibanez guitars were advertised in Mail Order catalogues and came with a note saying "definitely not a toy" !! They then seemed to re invent themselves and became really desirable - our guitarist had one. I know a bit more about drums though and Pearl drums were a similar example. There was a large music store in Broad Street called George Clay (who was a big Villa fan incidentally). He got in a kit of Pearl and they were in the front of the window for months and eventually shifted to the back. Later became one of the best kits around (IMO) and were used by the great Jeff Porcaro. (He could have made biscuit tins sound good though!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, veloman said: Back in the 60's , Ibanez guitars were advertised in Mail Order catalogues and came with a note saying "definitely not a toy" !! They then seemed to re invent themselves and became really desirable - our guitarist had one. I know a bit more about drums though and Pearl drums were a similar example. There was a large music store in Broad Street called George Clay (who was a big Villa fan incidentally). He got in a kit of Pearl and they were in the front of the window for months and eventually shifted to the back. Later became one of the best kits around (IMO) and were used by the great Jeff Porcaro. (He could have made biscuit tins sound good though!!) Erm, this has caused flashback. I got a guitar in the 70’s as a Christmas present - and it included a message on the box and a piece of paper in the actual guitar that said ‘this is not a toy’. D’ya think that was a general note many used, or did I have a bloody Ibanez 45 years ago? anyhoo, only popped in to post this 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Erm, this has caused flashback. I got a guitar in the 70’s as a Christmas present - and it included a message on the box and a piece of paper in the actual guitar that said ‘this is not a toy’. D’ya think that was a general note many used, or did I have a bloody Ibanez 45 years ago? anyhoo, only popped in to post this But what I wanna know, is what happened to that 70's guitar and did you treat it as a toy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: But what I wanna know, is what happened to that 70's guitar and did you treat it as a toy? I walked it back n fore to extra lunchtime guitar lessons in school for a couple of years. But got frustrated plucking at really hard strings learning tunes I didn’t recognise. No memory of what eventually happened to it. But I know I ended up with a proper ropey non brand electric for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 hours ago, veloman said: Back in the 60's , Ibanez guitars were advertised in Mail Order catalogues and came with a note saying "definitely not a toy" !! They then seemed to re invent themselves and became really desirable My daughter has an Ibanez mandolin, and it's bloody superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 5 hours ago, JoshVilla said: wanted to sound like Omar Essentially my entire approach to gear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 N.B. As a student of Classic English Literature , I'm afraid I pinched the "definitely not a toy" line from ..... "MAD" magazine. (What, me worry !!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 What are the chances? As we're chatting Ibanez, Steve Vai was touring the UK. Manchester a few days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 hours ago, veloman said: N.B. As a student of Classic English Literature , I'm afraid I pinched the "definitely not a toy" line from ..... "MAD" magazine. (What, me worry !!) Really? Wow that’s weird. This is not a toy was written on the cardboard outer box the thing came in (a sign of a quality product the cardboard box). Plus there was that flyer with the same message they’d pushed in to the body of the thing. Damn, for like 2 minutes there I was thinking I had a decent guitar when I was a kid! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Got it, ignore the orrible strap, that's the only spare one I had lying around. Over the moon with it, I played the Player Plus and while the push/pull pots are awesome, I much preferred the 9" neck on the player to the 12" on the plus and playability has to come above a fancy gadget for the sound. I also played a lovely Alvarez 12 string which was only £400 but I've got my heart set on the Hummingbird so I decided not to pull the trigger until I've at least had the chance to play the HummyB first. The Tele is so so so much easier to play than my battered old Les Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 12, 2022 Nice. My Tele is great, but I wish it was butterscotch instead of red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Nice. My Tele is great, but I wish it was butterscotch instead of red. Look at it as an opportunity to freshen up your wardrobe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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