Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He's as bad a player technically that I've ever seen for the Villa, his touch and passing is atrocious. On top of that he's not much of a presence. He still has time on his side but if he doesn't improve dramatically I can't see him having much of a future here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Will go on loan to the Championship and then back to France when/if we can afford a new midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He's as bad a player technically that I've ever seen for the Villa, his touch and passing is atrocious. On top of that he's not much of a presence. He still has time on his side but if he doesn't improve dramatically I can't see him having much of a future here. What about after January when he came in? Or pre-season? Apart from that, today was his first full run this season and the entire team played awfully. If we're going to judge everybody based on today then we may as well look for a new striker too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) What happened to the player of last season I do not know if the formation did not suit him or the personnel around him but he was shocking Bear in mind he did play his best football alongside two players who did not feature today! Edited November 2, 2013 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Pre-season doesn't mean a jot. Last season I wasn't overly impressed outside of the Reading game. Sorry but I just don't see anything in the lad, the fundamentals clearly aren't there. I'd rather have Vlaar in as DM as he's a level above Sylla on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I'd still have him in the team ahead of Westwood. He at least gets stuck-in and offers something off the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He doesn't offer much off the ball and Westwood is a hell of a lot better on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) meh, seems he got the NRC treatment Edited November 2, 2013 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2013 Not better than Westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Not better than Westwood. Different type of player completely. I don't understand people using Sylla as a scapegoat today, it was a crap game in which everybody played pretty badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He's not a scapegoat at all, some are just suggesting that he's a poor player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 2, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2013 Not better than Westwood. Different type of player completely. I don't understand people using Sylla as a scapegoat today, it was a crap game in which everybody played pretty badly. Reading through the threads, i think you'll notice quite a few of our players are being criticized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He doesn't offer much off the ball and Westwood is a hell of a lot better on the ball. Yet Sylla's PSR was 11% better then Westwood's. I don't think people notice as much when it is Westwood giving the ball away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He's not a scapegoat at all, some are just suggesting that he's a poor player. Which is fine, but it seems to be based purely on today's game. When he was in the team in the second half of last season we were playing some fantastic football and ultimately it kept us from being relegated. I just don't understand how people can now suggest he is a poor player when he played well last season and today was his first full run out since May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) He's not a scapegoat at all, some are just suggesting that he's a poor player. Which is fine, but it seems to be based purely on today's game. When he was in the team in the second half of last season we were playing some fantastic football and ultimately it kept us from being relegated. I just don't understand how people can now suggest he is a poor player when he played well last season and today was his first full run out since May. It's called the Westwood Principle. Edited November 2, 2013 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) He's not a scapegoat at all, some are just suggesting that he's a poor player. Which is fine, but it seems to be based purely on today's game. When he was in the team in the second half of last season we were playing some fantastic football and ultimately it kept us from being relegated. I just don't understand how people can now suggest he is a poor player when he played well last season and today was his first full run out since May. I can't talk for others but I've said several times on here that I don't rate him. KEA is getting dogs abuse (not that he doesn't deserve it for some of his performances) but is IMO a better player than Sylla. Edited November 2, 2013 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He doesn't offer much off the ball and Westwood is a hell of a lot better on the ball. Yet Sylla's PSR was 11% better then Westwood's. I don't think people notice as much when it is Westwood giving the ball away. Pretty much all of his passes are sidewards or backwards, Westwood attempts more forward passes. PSR is a completely useless 'statistic'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He doesn't offer much off the ball and Westwood is a hell of a lot better on the ball. Yet Sylla's PSR was 11% better then Westwood's. I don't think people notice as much when it is Westwood giving the ball away. Pretty much all of his passes are sidewards or backwards, Westwood attempts more forward passes. PSR is a completely useless 'statistic'. So if Westwood isn't in the team to keep us 'ticking over' then what is he there for? Last season when he had 97% PSR vs QPR, people wouldn't stop going on about it for weeks, now he has the lowest PSR in midfield it is meaningless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) Westwood's PSR is lower because he actually attempts to play a ball forward. PSR is as useless as Con's win% stat. Come on, Isa, you're better than that. No context on that stat whatsoever. Edited November 2, 2013 by Kwan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He doesn't offer much off the ball and Westwood is a hell of a lot better on the ball. Yet Sylla's PSR was 11% better then Westwood's. I don't think people notice as much when it is Westwood giving the ball away. Pretty much all of his passes are sidewards or backwards, Westwood attempts more forward passes. PSR is a completely useless 'statistic'. So if Westwood isn't in the team to keep us 'ticking over' then what is he there for? Last season when he had 97% PSR vs QPR, people wouldn't stop going on about it for weeks, now he has the lowest PSR in midfield it is meaningless? Not only does he keep things ticking but he also tries to pass the ball forward, it is entirely possible for him to do more than one thing isn't it? He put Weimann in on goal in the first half with a great forward pass. Westwood's PSR is lower because he actually attempts to play a ball forward. PSR is as useless as Con's win% stat. Come on, Isa, you're better than that. No context on that stat whatsoever. Yep it's a brainless way to 'analyse' things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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