tonyh29 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 "Martingale System" following on from Lepal's post , how is it deemed to be cheating ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 bet on two thirds of the table works for me ive often turned £5 into £70 or £80 on ladbrookes online casino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 I was looking for streaks then backing against it Ie. Last 4 spins were black, back Red and keep doubling up until you're in profit As posted earlier, the zero is the black sheep that will eventually bite you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 18, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2011 "Martingale System" following on from Lepal's post , how is it deemed to be cheating ? it's not (I don't think, happy to be corrected) There's no mathematical advantage, long term, to the system. At worst I imagine it would be one of those things that are frowned upon. Certainly don't think it's illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 "Martingale System" following on from Lepal's post , how is it deemed to be cheating ? Its bloody silly, but its not cheating! Double your stake after every loss so that when you win, you break even or return a small profit. Problem is the risk/reward percentage drops every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 18, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2011 Exactly. If A casino has a betting limit on a table, they'd probably welcome you using that system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 EDIT ignore. Double penetration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Maryingale system is incredibly scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 There are no systems guaranteed to win, it's a mathematical impossibility. Even if there was 7 reds or blacks in a row, which is statistically very improbable, the odds of the next one being red or black are of course, still 50:50 (well, not even that thanks to the zeros). So, just see it as a bit of fun and realise that while the house overall never loses, it's possible to be lucky (and unlucky) in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 There are no systems guaranteed to win, it's a mathematical impossibility. Even if there was 7 reds or blacks in a row, which is statistically very improbable, the odds of the next one being red or black are of course, still 50:50 (well, not even that thanks to the zeros). So, just see it as a bit of fun and realise that while the house overall never loses, it's possible to be lucky (and unlucky) in the short term. AND They're a bunch of borderline criminal feckers who'd break your legs soon as look at you if they thought you were taking the piss. The only rule of gambling is that the house ALWAYS wins. I don't know any poor bookmakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Correct, in theory a wheel could spin all day and only deliver black Highly unlikely, but possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 but its inevitable that you will eventually win.. how is it not illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 but its inevitable that you will eventually win.. how is it not illegal? How is what inevitable? There is no foolproof method of winning, unless you have an umlimited amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 18, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2011 Exactly. Unless you posess infinite wealth there's no guarantee. Plus, as I said, a lot of casinos have betting limits on Roulette. Say if you start with £50 and the betting limit is, say, £1000. You only have to lose 4 times and you're up to betting £800. Then if you lose that bet, you have nowhere to go because you'd have to bet £1600 to stick with the system, but you can't. Plus you've already spent £1,550 Is it really worth it for a £50 gain? Ultimately, the odds of you having a catastrophic loss means there is no long term advantage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 but its inevitable that you will eventually win.. how is it not illegal? eh? You are free to gamble whatever amount you want (within the table limits) if you increase your stake each time so what? Theoretically you will eventually win, if you have infinate stakes but in practice no gambler does so for example if you bet £10 on the first stake, and lose, double your stake (£20) and lose, double again (£40) and again (£80) and again (£160) and again (£320) and again (£640) witihn 7 losing bets you are already £1270 down. Your next bet is at £1280. Assuming a bet of red or black (e/w return) you win £2560. So you are £10 up having bet £2550 to get there. WHATS THE **** POINT?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 A colleague of mine used that system on the roulette machines in bookmakers. He had a few nice wins until one day he got a run of about 14 red in a row. I don't know if them machines are totally random. I've been to that Gala casino mentioned by the OP and they watch you like hawks in there, not a nice atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The ticket is to start much, much smaller, and set a limit so you can afford to lose about 7 times before cashing out. Be patient and win little each time. It worked well for me on the one occasion (£5 into £80), but I did only do it once, and wouldnt dream of doing it in a casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 A colleague of mine used that system on the roulette machines in bookmakers. He had a few nice wins until one day he got a run of about 14 red in a row. I don't know if them machines are totally random. I've been to that Gala casino mentioned by the OP and they watch you like hawks in there, not a nice atmosphere. Legally they should be. But how random is an algorithm written by a bookmaker for a roulette slot machine ever going to be 100% trustworthy......? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 18, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2011 The ticket is to start much, much smaller, and set a limit so you can afford to lose about 7 times before cashing out. Be patient and win little each time. It worked well for me on the one occasion (£5 into £80), but I did only do it once, and wouldnt dream of doing it in a casino. The amount you'd have to bet to make any serious money out of that system is huge. As in, say you wanted to make a grand. You'd start with a grand and if you own in the first couple of goes, no-one woudl notice you were using that system. By the time it became obvious, you'd be betting like 10 or 20 grand. The risks are huge. And as said before, you'd probably hit a betting limit anyway. A casino isn't going to bat an eyelid at anyone winning 80 quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The ticket is to start much, much smaller, and set a limit so you can afford to lose about 7 times before cashing out. Be patient and win little each time. It worked well for me on the one occasion (£5 into £80), but I did only do it once, and wouldnt dream of doing it in a casino. The amount you'd have to bet to make any serious money out of that system is huge. As in, say you wanted to make a grand. You'd start with a grand and if you own in the first couple of goes, no-one woudl notice you were using that system. By the time it became obvious, you'd be betting like 10 or 20 grand. The risks are huge. And as said before, you'd probably hit a betting limit anyway. A casino isn't going to bat an eyelid at anyone winning 80 quid. Oh yeah, completely. I wouldnt ever bother putting any serious money into the system, because at some point you'll be putting hundreds, if not thousands of pounds on red. As I said, I literally plucked away at a small stakes table online one afternoon. I initially deposited a fiver, and as my total went up, I increased my initial stake from 5p to 10/15p. At the end of the day, the worst I could do was lose a fiver. There's no way I'd go in with an opening bet of more than 20p, even opening up proceedings at 50p would get you into a lot of trouble very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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