TRS-T Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Just wanted to get people's views on whether they think that the England national team should be managed by an Englishmen? Obviously we have an Italian manager in charge atm but he'll be leaving after Euro 2012. In August last year the FA said that the next England manager will be English - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8915481.stm However this month, they've said that the next England manager may not be English - http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/13/england-manager-not-definitely-english-fa Harry Redknapp is the current favourite to replace Capello after Euro 2012 - http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/england-specials/next-permanent-manager I personally believe that the England manager should be English or it kind of defeats the whole point of international football. It's supposed to be about one nation vs another. If we have an Italian manager, we may as well have Italian players as well. I kind of understand if you are a small nation and you get a manager from a bigger footballing nation (e.g. Bryan Robson manager of Thailand.) But we are England. One of the biggest footballing nations in the world. We should have our own manager. I would rather try and fail with an Englishman than succeed with a foreigner in charge. There's no pride in winning with a foreign manager in charge. They are just my thoughts. So what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoody Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I take it only me and you have voted so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 I take it only me and you have voted so far You are correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoody Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 edit: double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoody Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Also. I would rather try and fail with an Englishman than succeed with a foreigner in charge. There's no pride in winning with a foreign manager in charge. If we won the World Cup with a former bongo player who is German but was born and raised in Timbuktu and got the job by winning his national lottery. I wouldnt care at all. I would be ecstatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 part of me thinks it should be the best man for the job part of me thinks that he should be english then another part of me knows for a fact that regardless of who it is the media will slaughter him and he'll pick out of form utd players for every squad and ill get bored of england all over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 should be redknapp without doubt, i see no other realistic candidates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 i agree SGC and the media campaign to get him there will be unbearable as would the pressure the red tops would put on anyone else who got it instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Best man for the job, which given the success, Redknapp deserves a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 In the Premier League we had the Top 4: Man U Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea At international level we have the Top 9: England Argentina & Brazil France & Italy Germany & Holland Spain & Portugal We are the only nation in the Top 9 to have a foreign manager. The big footballing nations don't appoint foreign managers. We should adopt this policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoody Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Yeah Redknapp is the best candidate for the job. Id say its nailed on he'll be next England manager. The media would go batshit if anybody else got it. He's a good manager and he's English. Ticks all the boxes. But for me. In general (not just this time round) I dont care if the guy is English and I never understood all the push for an English manager. It ended up with McClaren last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoody Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 In the Premier League we had the Top 4: Man U Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea At international level we have the Top 9: England Argentina & Brazil France & Italy Germany & Holland Spain & Portugal We are the only nation in the Top 9 to have a foreign manager. The big footballing nations don't appoint foreign managers. We should adopt this policy. Again. It's the FA's fault. And not because they dont choose English managers. It's their fault that theres never (apart from now with 'Arry) a strong English candidate in the first place. Harry will be the next English manager - the media will rave about it - but we should really be asking that the biggest job in the country only has one real candidate. Its because coaching in this country is shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoody Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 part of me thinks it should be the best man for the job part of me thinks that he should be english then another part of me knows for a fact that regardless of who it is the media will slaughter him and he'll pick out of form utd players for every squad and ill get bored of england all over again If theres one season not to say this about England. It's this one, considering that it was instead the media have slaughtered him and he's picked out of form ex and current Villa players for every squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 In the Premier League we had the Top 4: Man U Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea At international level we have the Top 9: England Argentina & Brazil France & Italy Germany & Holland Spain & Portugal We are the only nation in the Top 9 to have a foreign manager. The big footballing nations don't appoint foreign managers. We should adopt this policy. I'm not sure it's worked for the likes of Portugal, Argentina .. On your point though, it's because we haven't had many good English managers, look at the English managers, Hoddle, Keegan, McClaren etc...hardly a surprise they all failed. The last success was Bobby Robson who was a great manager. The next manager is going to be Redknapp, it looks pretty set, why are you moaning? He's proven he can be successful and he's going to get the job, who else has proven anything?? All the other nations have successful managers to pick from, England don't have too many, Redknapp is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I really don't get the England manager must be English argument. There is nothing in the laws of the game which even says you have to have a manager. Football is about your players on the pitch vs their players on the pitch. How you chose to support those players (managers, coaches, physios etc) is entirely up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishVillan Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Never heard of Top 9. Maybe top 6. England and Portugal seem out of place if that is only about internationals and not clubs. I agree, if at all possible, the manager should be same nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 Never heard of Top 9. Maybe top 6. England and Portugal seem out of place if that is only about internationals and not clubs. I agree, if at all possible, the manager should be same nationality. I'd say we are the strongest nations in the world. When it comes to a World Cup or Euros, I don't really see anyone out of that group winning the tournie (I know Greece won in 2004 but I doubt it would happen again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Where's the "I don't give a ****" option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Where's the "I don't give a ****" option? I believe you can chose that option by not clicking onto the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 In the Premier League we had the Top 4: Man U Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea At international level we have the Top 9: England Argentina & Brazil France & Italy Germany & Holland Spain & Portugal We are the only nation in the Top 9 to have a foreign manager. I don't think you've quite thought this through. The only time since the 60s that Portugal have been a force in International football was with a foreign manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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