TRS-T Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Allardyce is English and can speak English. Capello fails in both respects. Yes but who has had the more success? I'd rather try and fail with an Englishman than succeed with a foreigner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I'd rather try and fail with an Englishman than succeed with a foreigner. You are a wind up i'm sure of it.. the warnock comments, the foreign manager comments, the Ireland "is a good player" comment.. i'm sure you are on a wind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Rather try and fail with Allardyce than succeed with Mourinho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Allardyce is English and can speak English. Capello fails in both respects. Yes but who has had the more success? I'd rather try and fail with an Englishman than succeed with a foreigner.Just wow. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I'd rather try and fail with an Englishman than succeed with a foreigner. You are a wind up i'm sure of it.. the warnock comments, the foreign manager comments, the Ireland "is a good player" comment.. i'm sure you are on a wind up. Nope. For Villa - I'd rather succeed with a foreigner than fail with a British manager, but I'd prefer to succeed with a British manager. For England - the whole point of international football is about one people vs another people. The English vs The Scottish The French vs The Italians The Germans vs The Dutch The Spanish vs The Portuguese The Brazilian vs The Argentinian What's the point in us winning with an Italian in charge? We wouldn't really be winning as England would we? It's like if we had 10 English players + Buffon in goal There's no pride in winning with a foreigner in charge. If you win with an Englishman in charge, there's pride because we, the English, have achieved Not we, the English (with the help of a few Italians.) I only agree with foreign managers if you are a small country who need a foreign manager to bring the footballing expertise from a bigger footballing nation e.g. Thailand with Bryan Robson We are not a small footballing country... Re: my other comments Warnock is our best left-back imo and has been treated badly I'd prefer a British manager for Villa, an English manager for England Ireland is a good player, certainly good enough for our bench I'm not on the wind-up I'm just giving my two pence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Allardyce is English and can speak English. Capello fails in both respects. Yes but who has had the more success? I'd rather try and fail with an Englishman than succeed with a foreigner. What about foreign players at Villa? would you like to see more English players get a chance instead of some of the foreign players in our squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Winning the World Cup with English players but a foreign manager wouldn't really take much away from the achievement. After all, what is the nationality of the players on the pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Allardyce is English and can speak English. Capello fails in both respects. Yes but who has had the more success? I'd rather try and fail with an Englishman than succeed with a foreigner. What about foreign players at Villa? would you like to see more English players get a chance instead of some of the foreign players in our squad? I wouldn't wanna be like Arsenal where we have hardly any English/British players I liked having a young English core under MON but I did wish he'd buy more foreign players sometimes. So I don't mind foreign players but not too many so that there's hardly any English/British players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 27, 2011 Moderator Share Posted April 27, 2011 For England - the whole point of international football is about one people vs another people. Is it shite. The whole point of International football is to line the pockets of the people who run football. They dress it up as national pride and get the jingoistic spirits going amongst some. Its all about the money and has been for generations. Oh and International footy is usually absolutely bobbins to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Re: international football It'd be like having a footie match between Birmingham and the Black Country The Black Country have Big Sam (Yam Yam) in charge then we put 'Arry Redknapp (Cockney) in charge instead of a Brummie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoody Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Allardyce hasn't ever managed a top club as his style is so limited ffs. The one club that comes even remotely close to being big (Newcastle) he barely lasted a few months and they hated him. What manager across Europe uses his style to get major success? Don't say Mourinho as there is a massive difference. They sacked him when he was 11th - they went on to get relegated Btw, the fact that Newcastle sacked him when they where 11th shows how kind and generous we have been to Houllier and that he needs to leave our club this summer. The fact Newcastle sacked him when they were 11th shows how **** stupid Newcastle were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 What's the point in us winning with an Italian in charge? Because we win with english players involved. We wouldn't really be winning as England would we? Why not? There's no pride in winning with a foreigner in charge. What? ridiculous comment. If you win with an Englishman in charge, there's pride because we, the English, have achieved If you win with a foreigner in charge you also take pride because winning should be the mentality not the nationality. Not we, the English (with the help of a few Italians.) Backroom staff all Italian too? Warnock is our best left-back imo and has been treated badly He isn't. Ireland is a good player, certainly good enough for our bench He isn't. I'm not on the wind-up I still think you are. I'm just giving my two pence... I am giving my two euros too - and i'll leave it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoody Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Allardyce is English and can speak English. Capello fails in both respects. Yes but who has had the more success? I'd rather try and fail with an Englishman than succeed with a foreigner. And I think your signature should have a mandatory 'Im a Wind Up' attached to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I don't wanna win with the help of any Italian managers, assistants, doctors etc. I want it to be a 100% English victory. You don't see the Spanish asking some English people to help them win. If the manager aint English, we may as well get foreign players as well and then it would just be club football. Everyone stop being sheep/pc. You know I speak the truth. And I'm not racist either. The Spanish are way more racist anyway - they would never appoint a foreigner yet alone a black manager - yet no one has a go at them. I know that deep down, you agree with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KitKat Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Ahh, you daft racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I don't wanna win with the help of any Italian managers, assistants, doctors etc. I want it to be a 100% English victory. You don't see the Spanish asking some English people to help them win. If the manager aint English, we may as well get foreign players as well and then it would just be club football. Everyone stop being sheep/pc. You know I speak the truth. And I'm not racist either. The Spanish are way more racist anyway - they would never appoint a foreigner yet alone a black manager - yet no one has a go at them. I know that deep down, you agree with me.What about England players who wear Adidas or Nike boots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I know that deep down, you agree with me. I know that deep down if Mourinho and Fat Sam got offered the england job you would love for Mourinho to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Ahh, you daft racist. I'm not racist, just patriotic. I'm not saying I want a 100% white victory. I just want a 100% English victory. Doesn't matter what colour they are as long as everyone is English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I know that deep down, you agree with me. I know that deep down if Mourinho and Fat Sam got offered the england job you would love for Mourinho to have it. The Villa job - yes. The England job - no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I don't wanna win with the help of any Italian managers, assistants, doctors etc. I want it to be a 100% English victory. You don't see the Spanish asking some English people to help them win. If the manager aint English, we may as well get foreign players as well and then it would just be club football. Everyone stop being sheep/pc. You know I speak the truth. And I'm not racist either. The Spanish are way more racist anyway - they would never appoint a foreigner yet alone a black manager - yet no one has a go at them. I know that deep down, you agree with me.What about England players who wear Adidas or Nike boots? Pedantic. Anyway, we have Umbro kits. The manager is more important than the boots manufacturers isn't he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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