thetrees Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Do we know it was him that flew in? Not just his plane with someone on his behalf? In short, we don't. What we can do is make educated guesses. The jet is very much the private jet of Mr Lerner. It is based at East Hampton, NY, which is the far reaches of Long Island, and probably one of the more 'remote' areas of NY (if that's possible) In order to fly transatlantic eastbound it needs to first go to West Hampton for enough runway with a full fuel uplift. It is therefore fair to assume that if the flight originates in East Hampton without a pick up in a metropolitan area, then the man is on it. For the record it landed at Luton 1014 on Friday and departed 0959 on Saturday. The time suggested in my Saturday evening arrival back in the USA posting was wrong. One of my resources sometimes recalculates times and sometimes doesn't! I will continue to monitor things and advise if it points this way again. I will not advise times or arrival points until after any flight has been completed, which you may have noticed is the way that I have done things up until now. Here's to another interesting week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 daily star is reporting randy lerner wants to build a super casino once he takes over villa! already new ideas coming in. great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Do we know it was him that flew in? Not just his plane with someone on his behalf? In short, we don't. What we can do is make educated guesses. The jet is very much the private jet of Mr Lerner. It is based at East Hampton, NY, which is the far reaches of Long Island, and probably one of the more 'remote' areas of NY (if that's possible) In order to fly transatlantic eastbound it needs to first go to West Hampton for enough runway with a full fuel uplift. It is therefore fair to assume that if the flight originates in East Hampton without a pick up in a metropolitan area, then the man is on it. For the record it landed at Luton 1014 on Friday and departed 0959 on Saturday. The time suggested in my Saturday evening arrival back in the USA posting was wrong. One of my resources sometimes recalculates times and sometimes doesn't! I will continue to monitor things and advise if it points this way again. I will not advise times or arrival points until after any flight has been completed, which you may have noticed is the way that I have done things up until now. Here's to another interesting week! Fascinating stuff thetrees. Think I'm going to knock this messageboard on the head.It just doesn't do it for me anymore. Boeingtalk.com for me from now on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 [quote="MWARLEY2 Fascinating stuff thetrees. Think I'm going to knock this messageboard on the head.It just doesn't do it for me anymore. Boeingtalk.com for me from now on ] Nah, stick with VT The guys on Boeingtalk just aren't interested in the opinions of others.. ...and they hate Europeans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI-THE-GOD Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 This hole Casino thing has got me thinking , there's two rather large businesses for sale in the Aston Area . 1: Aston Villa F.C 2: Star City Could i be reading into this abit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomIsADeftone Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 daily star is reporting randy lerner wants to build a super casino once he takes over villa! already new ideas coming in. great stuff! U missed this yesterday Dem? Discussed in the Sunday Mercury thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI-THE-GOD Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 By the way just read a very interesting story about Neville , i say interesting but the word should be shocking . Neville has "supposedly" aproached Leaner and said "pay me off and i'll withdraw my bid " . The more i read about Neville the more i hate him , anybody else read this ?? i believe its from the Telegraph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 The more i read about Leaner the more i hate him , anybody else read this ?? i believe its from the Telegraph Isn't that supposed to be - .....The more I read about Neville the more.... Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomIsADeftone Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 By the way just read a very interesting story about Neville , i say interesting but the word should be shocking . Neville has "supposedly" aproached Leaner and said "pay me off and i'll withdraw my bid " . The more i read about Neville the more i hate him , anybody else read this ?? i believe its from the Telegraph i find the rumours about him being willing to pull out if someone was to cover his costs very, very worring. Jst the fact a rumour like this exists is reason alone not to support his bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaztonVilla Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 IF (and thats a big IF).. But IF this is true aboute Neville, it's a disturbing revelation. Having said that, if Neville has shown his true colours by making this proposal to Lerner, then Randy has to seriously consider the offer. If Randy can remove Neville (and most likely AV06) from his radar at minimal cost, it will allow for a smoother purchase of the company by him. In the long run, if he has to contest with these 2 consortia, it may end up costing him more (in legal fees etc) than just buying them off now. And if Neville is willing to be paid off, I think that tells its own story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancsVillan Posted August 7, 2006 Moderator Share Posted August 7, 2006 By the way just read a very interesting story about Neville , i say interesting but the word should be shocking . Neville has "supposedly" aproached Leaner and said "pay me off and i'll withdraw my bid " . The more i read about Leaner the more i hate him , anybody else read this ?? i believe its from the Telegraph glaring error in there Totti I think. The last line doesn't ring true with the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetcorn Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 I think its rubbish. All Lerner has to do is put in place a suitable bid, the board accepts it - goodbye Neville. He's a pillock. By the look of his house and car, he couldn't buy Goole Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI-THE-GOD Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Oh crap , sorry i meant Neville , i'll edit it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villafan306 Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 By the way just read a very interesting story about Neville , i say interesting but the word should be shocking . Neville has "supposedly" aproached Leaner and said "pay me off and i'll withdraw my bid " . The more i read about Leaner the more i hate him , anybody else read this ?? i believe its from the Telegraph glaring error in there Totti I think. The last line doesn't ring true with the rest And who is this Leaner character? Another consortium? :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Much as Neville's stock is falling in most peoples opinion, when this takeover goes through a small note of recognition must go his way for pushing the whole affair into the limelight around 10 months ago. If nothing else Nevilles initial interest pushed the clubs sale onto the radar for many prospective buyers. Who knows, if Neville hadn't expressed an interest perhaps bidders like Mr Lerner may never have come along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 IF (and thats a big IF).. But IF this is true aboute Neville, it's a disturbing revelation. Having said that, if Neville has shown his true colours by making this proposal to Lerner, then Randy has to seriously consider the offer. If Randy can remove Neville (and most likely AV06) from his radar at minimal cost, it will allow for a smoother purchase of the company by him. In the long run, if he has to contest with these 2 consortia, it may end up costing him more (in legal fees etc) than just buying them off now. And if Neville is willing to be paid off, I think that tells its own story. I am a liftetime fan and if I were leading a bid for Villa and thought a rival bid was much better, I would wish them well. Ask Doug to step down for this rival bid and then walk away. To me Villa is more important than £$£$£$£$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonrx Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 By the way just read a very interesting story about Neville , i say interesting but the word should be shocking . Neville has "supposedly" aproached Leaner and said "pay me off and i'll withdraw my bid " . The more i read about Leaner the more i hate him , anybody else read this ?? i believe its from the Telegraph glaring error in there Totti I think. The last line doesn't ring true with the rest And who is this Leaner character? Another consortium? :winkold: He is a skinny guy that can be found propping up a wall usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 I'd heard the same story about Neville and it backs up what I believe about the man which is that he is on one great big ego trip. He is in this just for the glory of himself. The fact that he is scrabbling arpund to a) FInd the investors when he quite clearly does not have sufficient backing for the whole deal and Tries to get out of it with paying when it is quite obvious that the other bid is better for the club he is supposedly a "life long fan" of says it all. I really do not trust him at all. If I was Randy Lerner I'd just ignore him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonrx Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Much as Neville's stock is falling in most peoples opinion, when this takeover goes through a small note of recognition must go his way for pushing the whole affair into the limelight around 10 months ago. If nothing else Nevilles initial interest pushed the clubs sale onto the radar for many prospective buyers. Who knows, if Neville hadn't expressed an interest perhaps bidders like Mr Lerner may never have come along. And if Neville is as dodgy as he seems then, (sharp intake) thanks to Doug for not selling to him! A wolf in sheeps clothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishjay Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Nevilles bid is probably the weakest one with Lerners and Stills definitely ahead and if Neville wants to get paid off why would Lerner pay him off Lerner is clearly the preferred choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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