sir_gary_cahill Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Easah suliman became the first Asian to captain england at any level, when he captained england u17s today, great achievement What is his background? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post P3te Posted August 13, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) Easah suliman became the first Asian to captain england at any level, when he captained england u17s today, great achievement What is his background? A photo of his cat Edited August 13, 2013 by P3te 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Easah suliman became the first Asian to captain england at any level, when he captained england u17s today, great achievement What is his background? Just know that he's Asian that is all, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 What do you mean by background? He was born in Birmingham and I believe he is of Pakistani descent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 What do you mean by background? He was born in Birmingham and I believe he is of Pakistani descent. With a name like Suliman he could have been Turkish, although they are usually called Turkish rather than Asian. U21s bad defeat to West Ham. 0-3. Gardner missed a penalty. Lambert watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 U21 thread ---------> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 What do you mean by background? He was born in Birmingham and I believe he is of Pakistani descent. Yeah that's what I meant. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Can anyone find me Jerell Sellars dob for FM purposes? SGC I am looking at you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I was going to ask you mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I didn't know if you had him as a friend on facebook or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Nope he hasn't accepted my friend request haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Haha, probably worried his career will go the way of Ethan Moore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I'm curious does the club not help in any way? they should be able to give you these details right? then again they are personal details so.. Think when the academy kids sign contracts the contract should have a "FM Only" section which they sign to ensure the researcher (you) gets access to the information for FM... we can dream eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevangrealish Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I'll ask jack for you Andy but hes on international duty atm. Ill try get back to you on it. But knowing you, you'll end up beating me to it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Cheers, just be careful how you ask though if you don't mind Kev, trying not to get myself in trouble which I'll explain below. I definitely won't beat you to it mate, it doesn't exist anywhere on the internet (without paying!). FM does not have a licence for the Premier League (EA do) so the club are not obliged to do anything. In fact, I've been chatting to the guy who does the FIFA data and they are not allowed to talk to the club either, although certain things are obviously delivered between the two companies above the research level. We are discouraged from contacting the club direct for several reasons, one of which being that if all researchers were to do it, it wouldn't take long for someone somewhere to think "hmmmm, we can/should be making money out of this" and then there is potential for all kinds of problems. Add to that the secrecy that exists within football, it is a closed shop and they don't like outsiders poking around. Our club are particularly poor at sharing information on the young lads, look at our OS compared to other clubs, you are lucky if they have spelt the names correctly, let alone have all of the lads on there or DOBs and interesting information. Some of the guys have contacts at their clubs who are more than happy to provide information and get involved but realistically, Villa or other top clubs aren't interested in wasting their time on this kind of thing. Frankly, it is hard to blame them, if there is no profit in it (particularly as there is for someone else) it is a waste of their time. I can contact the players directly, but again you have to be very careful here, there are child protection issues with anyone under the age of 18, so I am not supposed to ask them sensitive questions like DOB etc etc, if they choose to tell me, that is a different story. Biggest problem is that for me, the detail is the best bit, so finding out middle names, eligible nationalities, friendships and all that kind of stuff is what makes me happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Yeah I see what you mean fair enough, must be a pain to do with zero to little help from the club.. all part of fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 It just means it is all off my own back so all the intricacies you see in the database are down to my hard work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) Just tweet him, sure he'll answer if you explain. @RelSellars Edit: Nevermind just read your post on the matter Edited August 14, 2013 by HalfTimePost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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