VillaChris Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 London press and Ramsey really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Yes, that. But he's probably the nation's second-best centre back (after Smalling). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) 23 hours ago, VillaChris said: Very true but they are on home soil. Thought they played well in the last world cup but lacked the maturity to beat a side like Germany in the quarters, they could have that now. Just look at the talent they have to pick from...Lloris....Varane...Koscienly...Laporte...Matudi...Kongdobia...Pogba...Schnderlien...Griezmann...Martial....Kingsley Coman... Will someone like Dimitri Payet even make the squad if they all stay fit. Benzema is still an issue though, don't see him being selected as things stand and he'll be a big miss. Theres a lot of talk about how good Griezmann is but he's got less goals in la liga this season than Bale has, who has been injured most of the time. I know he is more than just his goals but I think we undersell our players. Kane and Vardy are a match for anything France have got. Edited February 19, 2016 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Surely Vardy and Kane have to be starting up top for England no? I mean based on form Vardy, Kane, Dier, Alli, and Barkley need to be in the XI. --------------------Hart/Forster------------------- ---Walker----Cahill----Smalling---Cresswell-- ------------Milner-----Dier-------Alli-------------- ------------------------Barkley--------------------- ----------------Vardy-----------Kane------------- Subs: Forster/Hart, Stones, Bertrand, Henderson, Sterling, Walcott, Sturridge Reserves: Butland, Shawcross, Clyne, Carrick, Rooney 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) 48 minutes ago, PaulC said: Theres a lot of talk about how good Griezmann is but he's got less goals in la liga this season than Bale has, who has been injured most of the time. I know he is more than just his goals but I think we undersell our players. Kane and Vardy are a match for anything France have got. Everytime I've watched Atletico this season Griezmann seems to be the only one that ever scores. He's more of a wide forward really although noticed Simeone has been playing him at cf due to Jackson Martinez and Vietto really struggling to fit in and Torres being Torres. If Benzema hadn't of messed up then him as CF with Griezmann and Martial either side would've been a frightening front trio with likes of Giroud, Lacazette and Coman as back up on the bench. Edit; He scored 23 la liga goals last year and this season has 20 for club and country in various competitions. Edited February 19, 2016 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Yes theres no doubting he's a quality player and the forwards France have at their disposal are good but we're not too bad in that department ourselves with Kane, Vardy, Rooney Wellbeck, Sturridge and Walcott to pick from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 France for me are a team with great potential for next World Cup as most of this squad are really young at moment but have no striker to help them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Surely benzema will go though, hes in some of the best form of his career this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 2 hours ago, YGabbana said: Surely benzema will go though, hes in some of the best form of his career this season Have you miss all the stuff with him and Valbuena and blackmail? No idea when that will all get resolved. France have said they won't pick him until it does but can't help thinking it will be a sideshow regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Begium's chances seem to have dipped. Hazard poor this season, Benteke no form, probably their best player De Bruyne a serious injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 5 hours ago, VillaChris said: Have you miss all the stuff with him and Valbuena and blackmail? No idea when that will all get resolved. France have said they won't pick him until it does but can't help thinking it will be a sideshow regardless. The restraining order has just got lifted in last few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 4 hours ago, Zatman said: The restraining order has just got lifted in last few days Ah right so their might be a quick resolution. If that is the case Benzema will probably make the squad then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 7 hours ago, PaulC said: Begium's chances seem to have dipped. Hazard poor this season, Benteke no form, probably their best player De Bruyne a serious injury. Belgium will still be a strong force, it's more than just an 11 with them, they have options on the bench who can turn games like when they put on Fellani in the world cup when they were losing 1 nil to Algeria and he turned the game. Still got good players at the back, Alderwiedler and Vertongthen have been superb as a partnership for Spurs this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 7 hours ago, VillaChris said: Belgium will still be a strong force, it's more than just an 11 with them, they have options on the bench who can turn games like when they put on Fellani in the world cup when they were losing 1 nil to Algeria and he turned the game. Still got good players at the back, Alderwiedler and Vertongthen have been superb as a partnership for Spurs this season. Belgium for me is a myth, its like a really good Football Manager team but not that great in real life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosenthal Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Kompany is another one there's uncertainty around. But several of their other players also perform better than ever - Alderweireld, Nainggolan, Dembele and Lukaku. Batshuayi perhaps also in front of Benteke at this point. Would still be a big surprise if they win it, look better than England for me though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Hazard will turn up for the Euros if he really wants a move away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 23 hours ago, PaulC said: Begium's chances seem to have dipped. Hazard poor this season, Benteke no form, probably their best player De Bruyne a serious injury. Meh, they're an extremely, extremely overrated team who even on top form have no chance of winning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 8 hours ago, Zatman said: Belgium for me is a myth, its like a really good Football Manager team but not that great in real life Hype job team, put them all together and they will not deliver as a unit. They also really lack top quality fire power up front at international level, none of their established strikers have a good record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 They still got to quarters in world cup and lost narrowly to Argentina so that's a building block surely in what was their first international tournament in 12 years. As for the others I honestly think this is the worst Italian squad I've ever seen...they have so few top players playing at the top level bar the Juve lot who are all in their 30s now and probably past their best. Seria A has declined aswell so you can't say they're testing themselves week in week out against the best teams, just look at what the Meelan clubs have begun. Still a problem with respect and mentality though....England's record against Italy in major tournaments is woeful. Still found a way to lose to an Italy team at the world cup who then went on to lose to Costa Rica and Uruguay. Spain and Germany will be there or thereabouts. With Spain they still have so much quality but when I look at what they had about 5 years ago I think they're a lot weaker, had Torres and David Villa in brilliant form and now it's Diego Costa who barely scores for them and Paco Alacaer who does but dosen't quite play at the top level. Still got so much in defence and midfield though. As have Germany but I was looking at some of the defences they were putting out in qualifying. Ireland scored two past them, Scotland scored 3 past them etc...could be a weakness there. Maybe Portugal can have a run...probably Ronaldo's last major tournament at his peak as he'll be 33 at next world cup. As usual got plenty of interesting young players starting to break through into the squad but nothing up front again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 after watching them in qualifying and landing a pretty handy group I still think Austria are a potential dark horse, good few players playing Bundesliga and Premier League now and Alaba is a brilliant midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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