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kurtsimonw Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Few obvious wins in there for Green Bay, Carolina, Pittsburgh, Cincy, New England And Denver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 13, 2015 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2015 The Denver Post's Mike Kiszla reckons the Broncos' defence's bad-to-the-bone reputation is worth every penny of every fine and every penalised yard as it's a means to an end. Kiszla: The end - a Super Bowl - justifies the meanness Every NFL defense wants to be bad to the bone By Mark Kiszla Denver Broncos defenders Danny Trevathan, Sylvester Williams and DeMarcus Ware teamed up to tackle Minnesota's Adrian Peterson in the second quarter against the Denver Broncos at Sports Authority Field at Mile High on Oct. 5, 2015. (Steve Nehf, The Denver Post) The Broncos' bad-to-the-bone reputation on defense is worth every penny of each fine and every yard of each penalty. The NFL is not for Cub Scouts. Dirty football wins. Every NFL defense wants to be bad to the bone. "Yes, of course," Broncos linebacker Brandon Marshall said. Eliminate the penalties? No way. No how. Unnecessary roughness leaves a mark. A chop block hurts, which is precisely the point. Although penalties have long been condemned as the sign of an undisciplined team, the truth is all those yellow flags can actually be a sign of an aggressive team on its way to the Super Bowl. "As coach (Gary) Kubiak always says: 'You never want to take away the aggression.' As soon you do that, you're playing on your heels," Marshall said. "Most of the best NFL defenses in the past have been really aggressive. I think Seattle has had the most penalties the last couple years as a defense." If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. And the list of recent NFL champions is proof. While the 2014 New England Patriots were under scrutiny for Deflategate, we have cold, hard proof of 1,080 penalty yards, which ranked the Pats as the third-most penalized team in the league. The 2013 Seattle Seahawks reinforced their nasty Legion of Boom reputation by being the most penalized team in the league, flagged 128 times during 16 regular-season games, with the Hawks' physically intimidating secondary busted for pass interference an NFL-high 13 times. The 2012 Baltimore Ravens, motivated by the preaching and primal screams of linebacker Ray Lewis, won it all despite leading the league with 1,127 penalty yards, including 17 infractions for unnecessary roughness. Oh, the eye-gouging incident in Indianapolis that would have done Moe Howard from the Three Stooges proud was a dumb play by Broncos cornerback Aqib Talib. In fact, it proved to be $323,529 of stupidity — the NFL suspended him for a game without pay. The wicked shoulder shot Denver safety T.J. Ward delivered to defenseless Colts receiver T.Y. Hilton merited a $17,363 fine, despite Kubiak's insistence it was a textbook example of a clean tackle. But the impression left on every other receiver in the league by Ward's vicious hit made the hefty fine money well spent. And I do not believe for one minute the Broncos should try to clean up their penalties. Only the after-the-whistle infractions are a problem. After eight games, Denver's defense is the second-most penalized unit in the league, and overall the Broncos rank fifth in penalty yardage assessed against them. And that's no big deal. The name of this game is not Mother, May I? If anything, the Broncos should ratchet up their aggression. When Denver won back-to-back championships in the late 1990s, nobody wanted to play the Broncos because running back Terrell Davis pounded the rock and linebacker Bill Romanowski might spit in your face. But what infiltrated the heads of opponents were the cut blocks executed to nasty perfection by Denver offensive linemen. Down-and-dirty football wins. What gives an intimidating team its psychological edge? It's the willingness to play constantly on the edge and push the boundaries of the rules. Nobody wanted to see Indianapolis quarterback Andrew Luck get injured, and there's absolutely zero evidence the Broncos were trying to hurt him as he repeatedly scrambled against a fierce Denver pass rush. But the hit Luck took as the meat in a tackle sandwich of Broncos linebacker Danny Trevathan and defensive lineman Vance Walker as Indy's star quarterback fought for yardage in the red zone of a tight game brought involuntary gasps from the crowd inside Lucas Oil Stadium. While Luck closed the deal on a Colts' upset victory, the lacerated kidney and partially torn abdominal muscle he suffered from the hit will linger for weeks — and sit heavy in the subconscious mind of any smart quarterback who even thinks about straining for an extra yard against Denver. In the Peyton Manning era, the one fatal flaw has been being soft as a team. John Elway wanted more kicking and screaming from the Broncos. He got it, plus some scratching, clawing and kidney shots for good measure. Football is a mean, dirty game. The Broncos are good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Eh, I see the point they're trying to make, but they've gone a bad way about making it.Seattle and Denver are the least penalised defenses in the league and are also the best 2 rated defenses in the league both in yards and points allowed. On the flip side, the Colts, Giants and Browns are in the top 5 most penalised defenses and also in the top 5 in yards given up. Then last season, Seattle were far and away the least penalised defense in the NFL. They had 70, next lowest was 91.There's a difference between giving up penalties and being aggressive. An even bigger difference between blowing a guy up over the middle so he's not cocentrating on his route, and poking someone in the eye after a play is over. Edited November 13, 2015 by kurtsimonw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Apparently coluorblind people were complaining they couldn't tell the teams apart last night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted November 13, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) NSFW, but... Edited November 13, 2015 by leviramsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 13, 2015 Moderator Share Posted November 13, 2015 Marshawn Lynch questionable for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 7 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: Apparently coluorblind people were complaining they couldn't tell the teams apart last night. Speaking as a colour blind man I can confirm this . I had to give up watching after 5 minutes as I could only differentiate the teams by the helmet logos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I doubt I will have the same problem when the Jags / Titans play their bold rush game next Thursday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I read that every team must comply with the Color Rush scheme. I imagine the Giants did so kicking and screaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 14, 2015 Author VT Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2015 Very "day-after-bad-curry" feel on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkr Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Quarterbacks are 3-51 at 4th quarter comeback attempts vs Patriots in NE/neutral field since 2001. Eli and the Giants have all 3. Edited November 14, 2015 by kkr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 15, 2015 Author VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2015 Landry Jones injured. Steelers having bad luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 15, 2015 Author VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2015 Manziel slinging it after a turnover, to Benjamin who else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Undrafted Hurns with his 7th consecutive TD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 15, 2015 Author VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2015 Rams being words removed again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Stoolers totally ignoring the run, cheers you **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkr Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Picked up Cutler from the waiver wire. 200+ yards 3TDs in first half so far. Power Moves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted November 15, 2015 Moderator Share Posted November 15, 2015 Emmanuel Sanders is active. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted November 15, 2015 Author VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2015 Oh jags :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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