smetrov Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 The last set of accounts I beleive shows Lamberts first season transfer expenditure (gross) at approximatley £21m - Yet with figures revealed by Lambert suggest it is nowhere near that amount Can someone - either an ITK such as Hairyhands - or an accountant explain this discrepancy. My hunch is to beleive the figure in the accounts - as these are legally binding - but as ever I am open to any explanation of the discrepancy. Faulkner also recently stated Lamberts gross spend to date is £42m - again way over what Lambert is suggesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 25, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2013 Does the 42m which Faulkner spoke of include wages for the players he's bought? Agent fees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. You should know from the criticism MON received that we expect the manager to be in complete control of finances. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. You should know from the criticism MON received that we expect the manager to be in complete control of finances. No not complete control just not stupid enough to spend 8million on Warnock and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. He seems to know the fee's - he's been quoting them in press conferences - trouble is they don't match the figures in the accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. He seems to know the fee's - he's been quoting them in press conferences - trouble is they don't match the figures in the accounts Yep. In his words:“I don’t get involved in any of that, but I know what’s happening,” he added. “I know exactly what the outlay is and everything else that goes on." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. You should know from the criticism MON received that we expect the manager to be in complete control of finances. You'd be hard pushed to find someone on here who doesn't hold Randy at least partially responsible for the reckless spending of the O'Neill era. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 25, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. You should know from the criticism MON received that we expect the manager to be in complete control of finances. You'd be hard pushed to find someone on here who doesn't hold Randy at least partially responsible for the reckless spending of the O'Neill era. Yep The vast majority of people on here acknowledge that MON and Randy can both shoulder some of the blame for our overspending. Neither are solely to blame, and neither are free of blame. Unfortunately for us, it's the people at either end of the spectrum, those that blame MON entirely and those that blame Randy entirely, that end up shouting at each other on here and drown out the rest of us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Back on topic - Do we generally accept the higher figures then ? - as these are in a legally binding document - Where as lamberts verbal statements aren't ? - Whole thing seems bizzarre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. He seems to know the fee's - he's been quoting them in press conferences - trouble is they don't match the figures in the accountsThat's what naked me wonder if he does actually know all the financial details of the deals. I'd rather he didn't - his main job is to get the team playing well, not study accounts and balance sheets. Edited November 25, 2013 by briny_ear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. He seems to know the fee's - he's been quoting them in press conferences - trouble is they don't match the figures in the accounts except of course, the point of this thread is that there seems to be a conflict between what the accounts and the CEO are saying and what Lambo is publicising. Think Lambo is trying talk up his bargain hunting ability for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. He seems to know the fee's - he's been quoting them in press conferences - trouble is they don't match the figures in the accounts except of course, the point of this thread is that there seems to be a conflict between what the accounts and the CEO are saying and what Lambo is publicising. Think Lambo is trying talk up his bargain hunting ability for some reason. Not these conspiracies again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. He seems to know the fee's - he's been quoting them in press conferences - trouble is they don't match the figures in the accounts except of course, the point of this thread is that there seems to be a conflict between what the accounts and the CEO are saying and what Lambo is publicising. Think Lambo is trying talk up his bargain hunting ability for some reason. Not these conspiracies again... The reasons why are subjective I will grant you. But its there in print, accounts say £21m - Faulkner says £42m over 2 seasons. Lambert is suggesting a significantly lower figure (which seems not to be the case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 The reasons why are subjective I will grant you. But its there in print, accounts say £21m - Faulkner says £42m over 2 seasons. Lambert is suggesting a significantly lower figure (which seems not to be the case) As briny said - he's the manager, not the financial controller. If he was angling for another job he'd have no need to specifically come out and dispute the transfer fees as he already has a reputation for being good on a tight budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. He seems to know the fee's - he's been quoting them in press conferences - trouble is they don't match the figures in the accounts That's what naked me wonder if he does actually know all the financial details of the deals. I'd rather he didn't - his main job is to get the team playing well, not study accounts and balance sheets. I dared suggest this in the Lambert thread, didn't fare well with some people. Btw, why are you naked? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe Lambert doesn't know how much was spent? He's the manager, not the financial controller. He seems to know the fee's - he's been quoting them in press conferences - trouble is they don't match the figures in the accounts That's what naked me wonder if he does actually know all the financial details of the deals. I'd rather he didn't - his main job is to get the team playing well, not study accounts and balance sheets. I dared suggest this in the Lambert thread, didn't fare well with some people. Btw, why are you naked? As metioned above...but just for you “I don’t get involved in any of that, but I know what’s happening,” he added. “I know exactly what the outlay is and everything else that goes on." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 25, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2013 Back on topic - Do we generally accept the higher figures then ? - as these are in a legally binding document - Where as lamberts verbal statements aren't ? - Whole thing seems bizzarre Are the figures in the accounts purely transfer fees or do they include agent fees, signing on fees, bonuses, pay offs for players leaving etc? That's a genuine question. I have no idea. And I don't really care which figure is right to be honest. Just spitballing possible reasons for the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 As briny said - he's the manager, not the financial controller. And yet you blame MON when our issue was wages in relation to income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 25, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2013 As briny said - he's the manager, not the financial controller. And yet you blame MON when our issue was wages in relation to income. That was before Randy had a financial controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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