Rob182

YAWN!!!!! you read what you want to see. I was trying to point out how petty some people can be over branded mass prouced poor quality tat. peer pressures a bitch. So some people care about the clothes they wear, so what? Referring specifically to Villa however, people care about the quality of the shirts and the style because not only do some people like to wear nice things but also it represents our club week in week out on the pitch. There's no need to get so holier than thou about it, if you don't care about the clothes you wear then that's your prerogative, but there's no need to come here and look down your noses at people. Like someone said earlier, if you don't even care about this stuff then why even post your opinion if it's just going to be a judgement on others? Hear, hear. Some people are completely missing the point; it's not about some superficial affiliation with more popular brands. At a personal level it's about quality and style. I want to buy next season's home shirt but if it's tacky, I won't. Some people care about what they wear, others don't. Having a sense of style doesn't make you shallow. In terms of Aston Villa as a whole, the kit is an important part of the club's image. Which matters. Also I'm fairly sure that shirt sales are a significant source of income for the club. If the shirts are shoddy and look awful, I think it's safe to assume that less people will buy them. The major flaw in these last two posts is that you're both assuming that the Macron kit will be horrible. Unless.. you are actually basing your points on us replacing the nike 'swoosh' with the word 'macron' ? In which case it is shallow and superficial, surely?

Therr's a bit of a difference between discussing a match/ manager/ players abilities (or lack of) and the maker of our kit. It's still a talking point, hence the 50+ pages, but for someone to be so angry about Macron that they wont buy the shirt, is pretty sad IMO. I can understand people's thinking when they say they wont go to a match with McLeish in charge or that they'd stop going if we bought Joey Barton.... but cease from buying the kit because it's Macron instead of Nike! Laughable! I'm looking forward to seeing the kit, as usual, I just hope they don't give us one of those triangular, pointy necks that I've seen on some of their kits.

Whoever your little bird was Trent, they were wrong.

As long as it has the Villa badge on it, I dont care what label it is. Macron, Macro, Netto or Aldi. If it has the Villa badge, it'll look classy. And now, as a bonus, we will hopefully get our kits in time for the summer and wont get dicked around by a company that obviously thinks they don't need to put us high on their list of priorities.

I saw his pass, I personally think he mrant to whip it to Bent and overhit it. I'm not saying he doesn't make occasional good forward passes. But when he's bang in the centre of the park, watch him give the ball to a centrensck or Clark. It frustrates me more because he's older amd should have the confidence to thread passes through oppositions more than once a fortnight.

I can't stand him. I know he adds experience to the middle, he's a good captain and is a good person to put alongside our youngsters and show them true professionalism. But I can't stand watching him play. He shirks responsibility so much. When he receives the ball in the middle, more often than not, he will pass the responsibility of making a forwrd pass to a centre-back or Clark. It infuriates Me. He does make forward runs, his shooting has definatly improved this season but he still looks like he's running in custard and I can't stand watching him shy out of making an incisive forward pass. Good captain, lovely bloke, great professional.... but I really, really hope he is pushed to the subs bench next season.

Good assist. Papillion, I actually thought that was a really good tackle - even though it was offside, he went flying into the box to cover for his central defenders and he did get a block on the ball.

I don't think he does shit anti-football. We play very attacking at times. There are just sections of games where we seem to pass the ball around the middle of the park aimlessley then lose it.

Macron So it'll probably be one of these designs then? There are some okay designs (even if they all look skintight!!)

Have faith Mantis! You used to be such a cheerful fellow :winkold: Now you sound like my Grandad (no offence)

If true, im actually excited to see what the kits gonna be like. Maybe it's better to be the biggest in a small pile, instead of the smallest in a big pile of Nike shit.

Yesssssssssss, he's gone.

I know that there have been some bad performances recently, but come on!... That doesn't justify accusing them all of being high on drugs! :winkold:

Kicking and Screaming

I couldn't care less who he supports to be honest. All I care about is the fact that he's shite and we did well to get rid of him in the first place. Average player at best and I see no benefit in signing him. If the argument is to use him as a squad player then it's a waste of space and money. We already have better midfielders than him (including his brother) and some promising midfielders coming through the ranks (like Johnson etc). I really don't see the point in taking two steps back and signing Craig. I can't see any logic from those who actually want him back either. It would be a pathetic and pointless piece of business for us... The only half-reason to want him back, would be if you had his name on a shirt before he left or if you didn't want him to go and are too stubborn to admit bringing him back would be a waste of money. Firstly, we sold him for £3.5 million, he went to Sunderland for more than that and we'd need to spend a bit to get him back. Secondly, and more importantly, we should not be buying squad players!! It'd be as good as signing Harewood, Sidwell or Beye. The next midfielder we buy should be combative, experienced, and should push Stan to the subs bench. The way to build a squad is to buy better than you have. Not waste your money on players that you'll imagine replacing in the next transfer window.

I can only assume that you pay no attention to the people writing on the forum or what they are writing. There is so much wrong with your post, I can't even be bothered to go into it.

We can do better than Craig Gardner. Gary, however, is going to be a great player. Put him in the middle next to a defensive midfielder and he'll be our Gerrard/ Scholes/ Fabregas for a good few years. I'm really looking forward to him playing a few more games for us this season. He has great vision, and I can see him using this to thead some good passes through to Bent (which we've been missing this year, tbh).

It turns out I'm going to VP now! But I might have to leave early

I don't think it's a man/woman thing. There are plent VTers who agree with your posts Julie, myself included! I also completely agree with your posts in the Wolves match thread about the team playing better away because there isn't the pressure of the home crowd (I was going to start a thread to that effect - with selected quotes from yourself and a few other VTers.... but I never got round to it!!) (Me not getting round to it is where you can use the man/ woman argument :winkold:)

I can't imagine there being an open stream anywhere. Maybe AVTV are doing one of their offers and you could sign up for 99p or £4.99, then cancel it at a later date?

What Bicks and Copey11 said!

Meh. It'd be nothing we didn't expect :winkold: Gary Gardner will score cracking goals for us, I'm certain of it.

I like Cuellar. Apart from occasional wayward passing, he always seems to put in a shift and make our defence more solid. Although, we don't see him in training. Perhaps his passing is sosloppy, that McLeish, Houllier and MON have all chosen not to play him at times? I don't know. But if he's sold, I won't be too bothered. He must do something in training that makes him lose his place.

It's not the best thing for him to say, but he's probably just trying to please the Leeds fans after he left them for us - because he wants to get game time and support from their fans. I predict he will get some games for them, and score, then come back to us in a month (or a few months). We'll then have to wait and see how he performs for us. I personally think his below-par performances have been due to McLeish playing him as a defensive midfielder. Delph's main attribute WAS his ability on the ball and to take players on. If we do bring in a decent defensive player (I hear lots of shouts for Diame in the transfer thread), then Delph would be a good option to fight Ireland for an attacking place or fight the wingers for a wide role. I really don't like him being played in a defensive position. We all knew, all along, that his main weakness was his dangerous and sloppy tackling.