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  1. El Segundo
    Agree with what most of you said but for the refs having no chance is down to them. They have brought the going to ground and rolling around thing on themselves because players have learned it's often an almost guaranteed way to get a foul called and the opponent into trouble. Refs are giving fouls based on the consequences of an act, rather than the act itself. So with Cresswell, if the consequence of him getting a swipe round the back of the head was him not going to ground, it's not that bad. If the consequences were that it felled him (whether genuinely or not) the Pavlovian dog with a whistle would have taken more serious action. Similarly I'm pretty sure Diaby would have got a pen on Sunday had he gone down after Mykolenko clipped him (although you never know with David Coote who seems to have his own personal levels of ultra-incompetence). I'm pretty sure Duran wouldn't have got a pen against Sheffield had he stayed on his feet, which he probably could have done. The game has gone that way because refs have allowed it to. You can't really blame the players for playing the game that gets the rewards.
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    You think that performance by Tarkowski was stealthy? Just because the officials couldn't see how out of control he was doesn't mean it wasn't blatantly obvious to everyone else.
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    I think a draw would suit us best here. Spurs are probably our biggest rivals for a CL place but I can see United improving second half of the season with their injured players coming back, and Hojland now knowing where the net is, also being a rival for top 4.
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    Don't think we've beaten Liverpool since Emery took over.
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    If Diaby goes down after the challenge by Mykolenko he gets a pen because a review by VAR would show the clear contact, and those are given these days. The second challenge by Tarkowski was a two footed lunge verging on a Mee-style scissor challenge. Although he gets the ball first that's irrelevant to whether it's a foul. It's made with excessive force and the follow through put Diaby in danger of serious injury. It's a foul all day long and potentially a red card, at the very least a yellow. The later challenge on Moreno was also an out of control two footed lunge that could have broken Moreno's leg if he hadn't jumped over it. Another red card offence. The ref either doesn't know the laws or has bottled out of applying them.
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    My suggestion was to base these teams' FFP restrictions on the revenues of clubs of a similar size and stature who did not benefit from doping. So for example base City's and Chelsea's FFP criteria on the revenues of the likes of Everton, Newcastle or Villa.
  7. El Segundo
    As I've said on the transfer thread though, certain clubs only have higher revenues and regular CL qualifications (which perpetuate each other) because they were allowed to financially dope prior to FFP. So while FFP is sort of working as intended, some clubs - PSG, Chelsea, City - were allowed to slip through the owner investment net and gain a massive unfair advantage.
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    It's not good for us unless of course NSWE were willing and able to pump as much into the club as Abramovich did at Chelsea and Sheikh YaMoney did at City. It would at least make it a level playing field for all clubs, and allow those with newly adorned with rich owners to do as they did. That would not be good for the game though, but neither was allowing some clubs to spend freely and then stopping others from doing so, thus distorting genuine competition. My point was more about bringing the likes of Chelsea and City back within the limits that other clubs of similar size and history have to deal with, rather than the artificially inflated revenue streams they now have.
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    You're missing the point. They may have been able to spend even more, but Newcastle could have come along and still blown them out of the water. And we and others may have been able to spend as much too. i.e. we may have been more able to catch up and compete, or even overtake. FFP has protected the likes of City and Chelsea from that scenario while still allowing them to spend much more than most based on the increased revenue bases - which they only managed to generate because of financial doping.
  10. El Segundo
    Wouldn't loss of matchday revenue from our smallest stand be relatively minor in the grand scheme of things? Even over two years? (And I Still don't understand why it would need two years to build a new stand). The opportunity cost - loss of potential increase in revenue in the long term - would surely dwarf it. As for point 2 I think it's pure speculation that the atmosphere and results would be adversely affected. I don't recall much in the way of drop-off in either when we replaced the Trinity. And the Holte generates most of the noise anyway.
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    It just shows how FFP has helped the richer clubs. It basically "pulls up the ladder behind them" to prevent anyone else crashing the party. Teams like Chelsea and City have much bigger revenues than us because they were able to financially dope to reach and maintain the highest levels. Which effectively allows them to continue to financially dope, to an extent. It's going to be very difficult for even Newcastle to catch up because all the money in the world does not help if you can't spend it. What I would like to see happen is that FFP limits should be applied to teams like City and Chelsea based on their likely revenue bases if they hadn't doped for years. For example their FFP status should be assessed on the revenue bases of clubs that were arguably of similar stature before the doping started. Teams like Villa, Everton and Newcastle. Or, when you consider they were not even in the top flight for much of their pre-doping eras, maybe even clubs like Forest or Palace. Of course that will never happen, but it would be a lot fairer than what is in place now.
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    The communications were not just poor they've been fundamentally dishonest/deceitful. The supposedly "logical" reasons he's given often don't make sense or again are misleading. 200 unsold tickets per match means the demand isn't there for a new stand, despite a season ticket waiting list in the tens of thousands? Utter bollocks. The fans are at the centre of what we are doing? BS. We're refurbishing the Holte Suite (implying it would still be for season ticket holders use)? Yeah right. That's my main issue with Heck so far. The decision on the new stand also leaves the nagging impression of a focus on short term ways to increase revenue (which of course we do need) but doing so at the expense of long term sustainable revenue streams. I'm sure NSWE will not have got to where they are by encouraging or incentivising short-term thinking and I assume they would have to sign off on everything Heck proposes, so hopefully that nagging impression is baseless and there is more behind to the decision to delay than the rather feeble reasons provided by Heck.
  13. El Segundo
    I didn't think we were that bad, we increased the tempo second half and created a fair few chances. We were unlucky with the one that hit the post, the ref got the penalty call badly wrong and Moreno and Diaby missed fairly easy chances. The bit of luck in the end made up for that. Boro are a decent team with a good coach and no pushover. Not just the ref but the linesman nearside did not seem to know what a foul is. Bloody awful. Tielemans and Buendia are players we miss against low blocks.
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    TO be fair we've hit the post, should have had a pen and the keeper has saved a couple.
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    The pen call looked like a clear trip to me, caught his one leg and caused him to catch the other and go over. Not sure why anyone wouldn't think it's a foul. VAR gives that 100%
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    This Ref is appalling even by usual PL standards. He's either blind or simply doesn't understand what a foul is.
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    This is like being asked to describe your best ever blow job. Very hard to choose. We'd probably miss Watkins and Luiz most if they were out. Digne has stepped up brilliantly but a slight drop off recently. Pau started slowly but is now a key player. McGinn has been brilliant at times but with one or two AWOL performances. Bailey now looks more of a £50m player than Diaby does and his goals and assists per minute played are probably better than Watkins. Emi has saved us multiple times. Kamara has been missed and makes Dougie better. Konsa has turned into a Rolls Royce of a defender and should be a shoe-in for England. I think Luiz just edges it for me as he is the tempo-setter and the main cog in Emery's machine, defends, creates, scores and great pens.
  18. El Segundo
    I doubt JJ was a shit footballer 10 years ago and he's since spent 10 years training to be a very good footballer. Heck has been in Basketball. Heck clearly knows about the money side, I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise. Ok you're not pissed off, and I dare say others aren't either. But plenty are. Indeed maybe the new stand wasn't the best way forward. - but then why not explain why? Surely he knows the ins and outs if he's made the decision? Why spin a load of garbage about it? You may be happy to be treated like a 4 years old, I'm not. I fully understand the financial situation, the need for increased revenue. Because I'm not 4, I can cope with being told the numbers don't add up or a new stand. What I don't understand is why he has to ride roughshod over fan preferences whilst claiming we want what he has decided, and lie about the justifications. Why can't he just be honest with us and maybe we won't be so pissed off?
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    Well he may or may not have been able to get basketball fans onside but he isn't doing a great job of that here, and it seems from that article that it was similar at Red Bull. Two football clubs, two sets of less than impressed fan bases. The fact he managed to alienate a not very well established fan base with a not very well established culture at Red Bull, as you claim, is that a feather in his cap? I imagine it would be pretty hard to upset such an unestablished bunch with little history or tradition, but he still managed it.
  20. El Segundo
    Some pretty big assumptions there. Did you read the linked article? In which people associated with Red Bull stated the very opposite? Perhaps he somehow then gained such knowledge during his 9 years or so in the Basketball sphere. Without question he knows more about commercial aspects of revenue increase, but that's not the same as understanding the industry as a whole. Do his decisions so far, for example, display any understanding of how Fans think about the game? Indeed so it's even harder to understand why he'd decide to hold back on the new stand which would increase revenue, and in doing so piss off a lot of the fan base in the process? Perhaps if he actually told us the real reasons we might understand better? This is inevitable and has been underway for years. It's also a necessary evil if we want to compete at the top table. But there are better and worse ways to go through the process. I don't think pissing off the fan base at every turn counts as one of the better ways. Ultimately I fully understand he has a "dirty job" to do and that to get there he will have to make unpopular decisions like the Terrace View and the Lower Grounds. But why not apply a little delicacy, diplomacy, honesty and transparency to the process instead of treating us like idiots and pretending it's all about what we want.
  21. El Segundo
    The timing isn't particularly relevant, nor who he was replaced by. I suspect you you as much as I do about whether it was a "real fan base or culture" or not, but it was a Football fanbase and a Football club and one of the main criticisms in the article is that Heck was totally ignorant about the Sport.
  22. El Segundo
    Ok so you don't think a basic understanding of the industry you work in is a must, or even a requirement then? You don't think some understanding of the way Football fans think might help him to not piss so many of them off? You don't think that ultimately what he decides is going to have any effect on Football operations? I suppose that worked well for Lerner and Fox, and Boehly's doing wonders at Chelsea without knowing football anus from football humoris so yeah, I guess you're bang on there.
  23. El Segundo
    Fair point but the "9 year exception" was with a Basketball franchise. This article indicates that he not only failed when working for a Football club, but that he had little or no understanding of the sport, alienated the fanbase, was arrogant and ignorant, did a load of damage, and left the front office a shambles with low moral and high turnover. Any of that sound a bit familiar? I'd be sceptical that his 9 years at 76ers has added to his knowledge of Football as a sport. Clearly NSWE appear to have put more stock in his success at 76ers than his failure at a Football club. I guess time will tell if that was wise or if this is their off-field equivalent of recruiting Gerrard.
  24. El Segundo
    Great find and kind of makes his "success" at 76ers look like the exception rathe than the rule.
  25. El Segundo
    I think this succinctly encapsulates how I feel. Well said.
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