blunther

Not sure you know what a fact is. Anyway, I think we aim for 60 points next season. I'd be very happy if we can just improve on this year's point tally.

Whatever happens, let's not be like Spurs fans and boo. How embarrassing. Absolute dead-rubber game for us, and Chelsea need the win so not expecting much. Would like to see a good half hour for Philogene-Bidace since he's not involved in the youth cup.

didn't have much choice by the time we managed to get through to buying due to the pretty awful website. And I certainly wouldn't have gone if I'd known how much it was before a mate bought it! Maybe it is the standard price for a Cat A game, I'm season ticket so used to paying about £26 per game, regardless who it's against. No idea why it costs more to see us get diicked by better teams, I'd rather watch us play someone and have more chance of winning. It's not a standard game either though. Usually games where there's not a packed villa park will be priced accordingly. Don't mind spending £15 on a cup ticket even though it'll be a crap atmosphere with 20k there. Obviously I'm out of the loop and a minority here, but to me £50 to watch a game of football is extortionate. no idea how much people spend bringing their family to a so-called 'cat a' game. Must be twice the price of a day out at Alton Towers, and I know which one would be more fun.

There were some available for £27 apparently, but we're still one of the most expensive teams in the PL for tickets for the last match. Burnley free; Baggies, Leeds, Man U, Everton, Palace, even Arsenal are under £30. hopefully not a sign of things to come. I know our season tickets are among the cheaper end, and there's a waiting list. With a business head on you'd up the prices, but you'd hope this isn't just business. If we start jacking the prices up then I'm out.

Fifty **** quid for a ticket is taking the piss. Thanks villa.

They had a crowd for the one against Chelsea a whole back. Still remember that cocky little prick celebrating at the Holte.

I reckon we can be confident of going through now...you'd hope. Assume they'd let 10,000 in if we can have that for Chelsea. Hopefully we get some good support in there for them.

So is the final at villa park? Anyone know the tickets situation?

Fantastic little run from Barry. He looks a proper player

Hopefully he'll get a run out on Sunday then.

Is Philogene-Bidace not eligible for this? Wrong age-bracket?

I don't see the need for all the insults. He was a loan so no big fee or long contract involved. He won us some points earlier in the season then it's all gone downhill for whatever reason. He's obviously pissed off with himself too. It didn't work out and he won't be around here next season, no biggie.

I can't really comment as I didn't watch today. I thought that either we'd get battered, or if we were doing well the ref would step in as usual. Seems I wasn't far wrong. Not gonna bother with watching games against the Manc clubs in future. It's just too crooked to enjoy (that offside man city goal for instance). I'll just sell my season ticket seat for games against the snakey six I think and pretend they **** off to their own league after all. At least they'll always get bought.

6th gets you the Europa League though unless both cup winners are outside of the top five, which hasn't happened in decades. So 6th would get them CL, indeed most seasons 7th would get them CL? (assuming their coefficient is within the top two of clubs that haven't qualified, which lets face it will usually be the case). So 'usually', 7th is enough for CL for teams like Man U and Liverpool (with a few caveats). Yes, it's not taking a slot,and if we finished 4th that slot would still be ours. But it's still a pisstake.

Same. I'm rally gutted it hasn't gone through. It would have been the great reset needed. Now we just get to watch as these clubs grab more and more power, and build their Super League by another name while still dominating domestic competition.

Yeah, I do hope there some juicy legal wrangling on the way. Few hundred million in legal fees to push one or two of the bastards over the edge.

Let them off a bit and just stick them in the conference next year.

What time does the away coach arrive? Can we block it? I don't know which way they come in.

Sounds brilliant. Sign me up.

True - I think that has the end result is the same as my worst-case scenario though - a cabal of six megarich investment vehicles, and hundreds of football clubs below whose only purpose is to provide training matches for the assets of the large investment vehicles

They're parasites. All of them. What's happening in football is just a reflection of the wider world. Maybe this will be the catalyst in the wider world for people to take back what is ours and put these billionaire scum where they belong.

My best-case scenario: They've signed something binding, or they just don't care, and go ahead. PL and UEFA kick them out, and Johnson drops a legal bomb banning unsanctioned matches from happening in the UK. All six clubs move their franchise to some oil-money hole elsewhere in the world. Players abandon it in time, and it slowly dies a death. Phoenix clubs rise with proper fans and work their way back up over the years. My worst-case scenario: UEFA and the PL offer various titbits to bring them back around. The SL is dropped, but the larger financial investment vehicles (I refuse to call the Snakey Six 'clubs') get increased TV money, ability to sell their own streams and guaranteed CL football. Every other club becomes a whipping boy as our incomes plummet and theirs rockets. Half of all clubs go bust. Football dies.

They would literally be playing a different sport if it's not FIFA sanctioned. They'd not be playing Association Football anymore. It's another reason why they could no longer play international football - after a couple of years the laws of the two games would diverge. It'll eventually be like Rugby Union/League. Manchester United FC in this new league wouldn't have their 20 League Titles, and Liverpool FC wouldn't have their 6 European Cups. They'd be new franchises, taking part in a new sport. They would be established in 2021. The old, historied clubs (plus Spurs) would be gone forever.

Absolutely agree. We can't trust them anymore. They ruined the relationship by cheating. We need to kick their ass to the kerb.

Me and you would love that, but what would the 19 year old lad in Singapore tweet about if he couldn't watch some clearing in the woods like Neymar roll about on the floor with immaculate hair? They're the fans who count now mate. We're just 'legacy fans'. **** 'em. Damage is irreparable. Kick the bastards out.