blunther

I can't really comment as I didn't watch today. I thought that either we'd get battered, or if we were doing well the ref would step in as usual. Seems I wasn't far wrong. Not gonna bother with watching games against the Manc clubs in future. It's just too crooked to enjoy (that offside man city goal for instance). I'll just sell my season ticket seat for games against the snakey six I think and pretend they **** off to their own league after all. At least they'll always get bought.

6th gets you the Europa League though unless both cup winners are outside of the top five, which hasn't happened in decades. So 6th would get them CL, indeed most seasons 7th would get them CL? (assuming their coefficient is within the top two of clubs that haven't qualified, which lets face it will usually be the case). So 'usually', 7th is enough for CL for teams like Man U and Liverpool (with a few caveats). Yes, it's not taking a slot,and if we finished 4th that slot would still be ours. But it's still a pisstake.

Same. I'm rally gutted it hasn't gone through. It would have been the great reset needed. Now we just get to watch as these clubs grab more and more power, and build their Super League by another name while still dominating domestic competition.

Yeah, I do hope there some juicy legal wrangling on the way. Few hundred million in legal fees to push one or two of the bastards over the edge.

Let them off a bit and just stick them in the conference next year.

What time does the away coach arrive? Can we block it? I don't know which way they come in.

Sounds brilliant. Sign me up.

True - I think that has the end result is the same as my worst-case scenario though - a cabal of six megarich investment vehicles, and hundreds of football clubs below whose only purpose is to provide training matches for the assets of the large investment vehicles

They're parasites. All of them. What's happening in football is just a reflection of the wider world. Maybe this will be the catalyst in the wider world for people to take back what is ours and put these billionaire scum where they belong.

My best-case scenario: They've signed something binding, or they just don't care, and go ahead. PL and UEFA kick them out, and Johnson drops a legal bomb banning unsanctioned matches from happening in the UK. All six clubs move their franchise to some oil-money hole elsewhere in the world. Players abandon it in time, and it slowly dies a death. Phoenix clubs rise with proper fans and work their way back up over the years. My worst-case scenario: UEFA and the PL offer various titbits to bring them back around. The SL is dropped, but the larger financial investment vehicles (I refuse to call the Snakey Six 'clubs') get increased TV money, ability to sell their own streams and guaranteed CL football. Every other club becomes a whipping boy as our incomes plummet and theirs rockets. Half of all clubs go bust. Football dies.

They would literally be playing a different sport if it's not FIFA sanctioned. They'd not be playing Association Football anymore. It's another reason why they could no longer play international football - after a couple of years the laws of the two games would diverge. It'll eventually be like Rugby Union/League. Manchester United FC in this new league wouldn't have their 20 League Titles, and Liverpool FC wouldn't have their 6 European Cups. They'd be new franchises, taking part in a new sport. They would be established in 2021. The old, historied clubs (plus Spurs) would be gone forever.

Absolutely agree. We can't trust them anymore. They ruined the relationship by cheating. We need to kick their ass to the kerb.

Me and you would love that, but what would the 19 year old lad in Singapore tweet about if he couldn't watch some clearing in the woods like Neymar roll about on the floor with immaculate hair? They're the fans who count now mate. We're just 'legacy fans'. **** 'em. Damage is irreparable. Kick the bastards out.

I've started to hope it goes through. I think far from being punished, they'll be offered concessions to stay. Rights over their own matches and/or a larger share of the TV money. Guaranteed European qualification and the like. The damage has been done. There's no going back now. Either they piss off and leave us to proper football, or they get what they want another way and the PL and CL become the effectively closed shop.

Give them one last chance (48 hours) to apologise and promise to never do this again. If they agree, 100 point deduction this season for each 'club' and a ban from european competition for five years. Let them feel what it's like for the rest of the clubs they wanted to destroy. Stamp it out entirely and make sure it's never discussed again. A massive fine to distribute to lower League clubs would go towards an apology as well. If they fail to agree to this within 48 hours then full expulsion and expunge them from the history books. They can either go and play with themselves in some global money league or if that doesn't come off then they can sell the grounds and build apartments. It'll be a lesson well learned. It won't happen, but it should. This is the battle for the remnants of the soul of the world's greatest sport. Nothing should be off the table. To quote someone earlier... "Destroy them". They're trying to destroy rhe whole of the history of European football. Hundreds of fine clubs would go to the wall. No mercy.

They're spurs, they'll find a way to **** it up.

Mates a blues fan who's concerned about staying in business. Usually I'd find that funny but today has made me think that local rivalries should be put to one side...there's only six 'clubs' in this country that any football fan should truly hate, and SHA ain't one of them.

10 9 minute intervals.

Not only should we expel these clubs from all existing competitions, we should strip them of any historical honours. This 'Manchester United' is effectively a new entity joining a new league, established in 2021. How can such an outfit boast about any past honours? The Man U that won 20 leagues is now dead and gone. RIP. Let them run off and play with their expensive new toys. If it works for them, **** 'em, we can enjoy Saturday 3 o clock kick offs and get behind the Villa. If it doesn't work out as planned and they all come back cap in hand, welcome them back into the 14th tier like you would any other new club wishing to join the league. But without their trophies, titles and history. I actually feel sorry for the proper fans of these clubs. They didn't ask for this.

They could auction off slots each year and fill it up with Chinese and Middle Eastern teams with loads of dodgy money. Would fit the character and ethos of the league perfectly.

How can a team improve its coefficient sufficiently without playing well in european competitions? Wouldn;t the fact that Team A is in the 'champions league' mean they keep a higher coefficient than Team B even if finsihing below them in the league year on year? I mean, I'm sure that's exactly what they want but they could at least try and make it a bit less blatant.

Fair play to Sheff U, that's how you see out a 1-0 with ten men. I think the sending off did them a favour, we just started chucking it in the box and we were playing well in the second half up to then. Europe was a stretch, and looks impossible now. Let's just make sure we finish top half. Five points clear of 11th. We'd all have been absolutely delighted with that at the start of the season.

How is that not a foul or a pen??

I don't understand how football grounds have got so expensive. Wasn't the Holte End about £5m? I know that was a while ago, but we own the land, how could a nice 15,000 seater North Stand with some fancy corporate bollocks cost more than a middling striker would cost? Surely we could knock something up that would take us near 50k and look less like a giant turd for £30-40m?

Same. Would be interesting to see the alternate timeline where Sheffield United won early in the season. Reminds me of the time we lost 3-2 at Leicester after going 2-0 up. If we held on to that lead I reckon we stay up and they don't get close to winning the league. That game seemed to prove to our players that we just can't win, and proved to Leicester players that they can come back from anything and win.