PauloBarnesi

newspapers that invent and distort stories to fit their editorial stance, whether it’s left-wing or right-wing should trouble us all. of course reading this thread one would draw the conclusion that it's only when they upset the left that anyone seems to care ... au contraire You may feel that way Tony, remind me again who posted Socialist Worker headlines? Who mentioned the Daily Mirror previously etc? The media in general is very right wing biased especially amongst the more popular newspapers. We have seen to what depths they will sink with things like the Sun (Hillsborough for example), NOTW, The Mail this week etc. That is not to say the Mirror etc are above any sort of criticism, nor should they be. But as many are pointing out and you are conveniently missing is that political influence from elements such as Murdoch, the mail proprietors etc will no doubt cause a reaction especially from those that do not subscribe to that (IMO) wrong way of thinking. I would say right wing biased, but not very right wing biased? I guess it depends on what you define as right wing, but very right wing is the BNP to me. I don’t think that any of the major newspapers support this. At the heart of it is that most papers support the editorial direction of their owners, and press barons tend to be that way inclined? But I would say that Britain as a country tends to lean more to the right than the left, even if its the centre right? The left and centre left consistently get more votes at general Elections than the right/centre right (although that does really depend on how you define 'centre right' and 'centre left', and what you think the Lieberal democrats are (or were pre 2010) Well I would guess if one takes the last 200 years its generally been right of centre politics that has dominated, but I guess its how you define these things. We haven’t had a left wing government since the 70s...

newspapers that invent and distort stories to fit their editorial stance, whether it’s left-wing or right-wing should trouble us all. of course reading this thread one would draw the conclusion that it's only when they upset the left that anyone seems to care ... au contraire You may feel that way Tony, remind me again who posted Socialist Worker headlines? Who mentioned the Daily Mirror previously etc? The media in general is very right wing biased especially amongst the more popular newspapers. We have seen to what depths they will sink with things like the Sun (Hillsborough for example), NOTW, The Mail this week etc. That is not to say the Mirror etc are above any sort of criticism, nor should they be. But as many are pointing out and you are conveniently missing is that political influence from elements such as Murdoch, the mail proprietors etc will no doubt cause a reaction especially from those that do not subscribe to that (IMO) wrong way of thinking. I would say right wing biased, but not very right wing biased? I guess it depends on what you define as right wing, but very right wing is the BNP to me. I don’t think that any of the major newspapers support this. At the heart of it is that most papers support the editorial direction of their owners, and press barons tend to be that way inclined? But I would say that Britain as a country tends to lean more to the right than the left, even if its the centre right?

Anyway if people think the Mail is the only problem; Jeremy Vine is just as bad for whipping the public into a frenzy...

Well the Mail’s links was also with the Blackshirts as well set up by Oswald Mosley, a former Labour MP? And did the Rothermore’s not derive their fortune from the Daily Mirror? What I am trying to get at is thats its always a lot murkier and confusing. And as Private Eye exposes so much of the hypocrisy of the press and politicians. To be honest they are all as bad as each other, and all we can hope for is the occasional decent parliamentarian and journalist... Its not that long ago that Dacre and New Labour were best friends. Campbell can cry wolf now, but was that really always the case? I see all kinds of people buying these papers, and don’t think “Oh look its a rabid fascist” because they buy the Mail, anymore than looking at someone buying the Guardian and thinking “I bet they work for as a social worker and have a penchant for typos’. Sure some fit the stereotype, but some also don’t. And you never know some might just buy the paper for the sport

In fairness anyone who reads that rag most probably is. You see thats the problem; not everyone who reads the Mail is going to be like that... Just as not everyone who reads the Guardian, The Mirror, the Telegraph, The Times, The Sun is completely the stereotype we like to perceive.

When you say VT says, do we now have an editorial written by Blue Tony or Red Ian?

He can’t be all bad can he? But he would probably tell us all that we were çunts

I remember running once in the same race as Julian Goater, Basil Heatley and Dave Moorcroft.

People are worrying about another Conservative/Labour/Libdem/SNP/MRLP/Drat/TonyH/Blandy Government. This is more worrying... Dacre signs new contract

A suppose its more subtle than Browns racist slogan of "British jobs for British workers " though I wouldn't call it racist! If it was "British jobs for British white workers" then yes! can't say I am too enamoured with labour anymore. They are so far removed from what they used to be. Too many career politicians from public school who have never been and lived in the real world. The Tory's are more interested in stiffening sentances for benefit fraud than they are for serious violent crime. Guess out of the two party's I would rather put my trust in Labour. I thought few of them went to Public school, mainly Private school? Miiliband went to Haverstock Comp, where it seems fellow alumni included Marlon Harewood, Joe Cole & Steve McFadden went

The point of graphics is to be clear and easy to understand. That graphic is baffling...

Just finished David Peace’s new book. Was book of the week on Radio 4 which prompted me to buy it, as I enjoyed the Damned United. Its good in many respects as one gets the feeling of Bill Shankly, but its very long and full of repetition (its the style of the book and his writing). Its very poignant about his latter years, as he was forgotten by Liverpool. Would recommend to those who have an interest in Shankly and that era, but would suggest that it can be hard going at times.

Indeed. One of the few to come out with dignity after an encounter with Sascha Baron Cohen

Winston Churchill drank one thing more than any other: “In defeat I need it, in victory I deserve it”

I am amazed at the love for Brewdog; I found it pretty damn poor with some of the worst design/copy yet to inhabit a beer bottle. This stuff on the other hand was bloody good:

Much worse, nothing to look forward to. Last season it became clear that we could look forward.

Not sure that meaning is right. is it? It's the process of valuing something at nothing was what I thought. Always good to have an old Etonian on board

I suspect he was filibustering? I guess parliamentarians would argue they are doing it for the benefit of the public, just they have their own definition of the public they represent? Lets be honest most people who enter politics aren’t doing it for anyones benefit but their own. On both sides of the house this applies. I remember some female Tory MP, I think who was a doctor originally, being shocked by her fellow mps and their attitude. Of course exceptions exist to the rule, but most of them aren’t the people I would choose to govern and legislate. I would like to add my local MP Andy Slaughter, Labour is not such a man, and a fine gentleman*. If one looks at both houses they are usually mainly empty, so one might ask is it better they are there asleep or somewhere else completely (probably asleep) * He got me a free pass to go up the tower that contains Big Ben.

That really is a an ace photograph, on so many levels. Its photoshopped. They removed his nanny and various far right wingers...

Probably his pulling suit...

In the still at the start of that clip, he looks like he has mutton chops and should have a pocket watch and chain. But yes, possibly the smartest person there, whichever way you mean it. Pretty damning of the rest if he is either the smartest in ether sense. Starting to look a little like Rhodes Boyson

She does appear to be a female? But certainly she’s got a point, but I doubt any British government likes being told what to do by the UN; haven’t they told us to negotiate with the Argies?!

I'm not sure what hope they give for locals other than being a cleaner for x number of hours a week (and the prospect of turning in to Falmouth or Salcombe). Falmouth has a pretty successful dock (first deep sea port on the eastern side of Atlantic iirc) and therefore broader economic base than many places in the SW that clearly have tourism as a key industry. Margate seems to have some wind farms off shore and the promise of Wayne Heminghway coming to help. But this isn’t just about Margate, its about lots of places that seem to have huge deprivation when the main industry dies; i.e. Welsh mining villages, etc.

Visited Margate in Kent today. Seemed to be very economically depressed, and I am not sure with any party in power could these ‘failing’ places turn it around. Yes things like Turner contemporary and lots of exiles from London seem to give hope, but its hard to see that this is a total answer.