PauloBarnesi

A complicated individual, who at times is incredibly intelligently and articulate man. At times he’s much less than that. Brave of him to put his head above the parapet on this.

If you look at the bottom half, over 10 games, virtually all of them have the same form, only Sunderland and Palace are improving in any meaningful way.

He did what was needed and asked of him. Perfectly happy with his performance.

I looked and I couldn’t see Dann connected to us since McLeish left? Sorry when I last looked on here tonight it seemed like it was going to be Dann, from what Hodgson has said. Is that not right now then? Are we expected another striker after all? I thought we never trusted anything written on here unless a genuine ITK said so Where is MYSTERYMAN????

I looked and I couldn’t see Dann connected to us since McLeish left?

Eh? He scored 1 goal and spent the rest of season injured with an eye injury He won us three points. So yes it was worth it. Success would be an exaggeration, but not a bad move. Of course we then signed Carew and Young in January so it didn’t matter

I am not sure anyone knew to the full extent what was happening until sometime after 1941 when the ‘final solution’ came into being. I think that many simply could not believe the depths of what was to come. I am sure that many of the papers that relate to the British knowledge and the reaction within government are still classified.

Didn’t Blandy post something about the Germans not be that efficient last year? Anyway I would love it if we had a half decent car industry. Oh we have; Mini, Rolls Royce and Bentley. All owned by Germans. Or a decent railway company. Oh we have; Chiltern Railways. Owned by DB... Anyway back to Scargill. Think everything has been said. Vilified and loved by many.

Churchill really was quite a vile man. Good wartime leader perhaps, but other than that ..... nope. Yeah, the Churchill thing? I read Roy Jenkins biography which left me thinking 'what a guy' but then it quickly became apparent that loads of the bad stuff had been left out. The American historian Buchanan, in his book 'the unnecessary war', makes the case that a cult was created around Churchill and that this country has become more militaristic as a result, and that every British PM's main ambition is to gain Churchillian status by some military intervention. Seems reasonable to me. An American historian talking about unnecessary war; maybe he should study the US record first.

Churchill really was quite a vile man. Good wartime leader perhaps, but other than that ..... nope. Vile in what way ? certainly he was flawed but I've never heard him called vile before doesn't take much research Paulo squire: http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2002/nov/28/features11.g21 The Churchill you didn't know Thousands voted him the greatest Briton - but did they know about his views on Gandhi, gassing and Jews... Share219 inShare0 Email The Guardian, Thursday 28 November 2002 I will not pretend that, if I had to choose between communism and nazism, I would choose communism.Speaking in the House of Commons, autumn 1937 I do not understand the squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisonous gas against uncivilised tribes. Writing as president of the Air Council, 1919 It is alarming and nauseating to see Mr Gandhi, a seditious Middle Temple lawyer, now posing as a fakir of a type well known in the east, striding half naked up the steps of the viceregal palace, while he is still organising and conducting a campaign of civil disobedience, to parlay on equal terms with the representative of the Emperor-King. Commenting on Gandhi's meeting with the Viceroy of India, 1931 (India is) a godless land of snobs and bores. In a letter to his mother, 1896 I do not admit... that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia... by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race... has come in and taken its place. Churchill to Palestine Royal Commission, 1937 (We must rally against) a poisoned Russia, an infected Russia of armed hordes not only smiting with bayonet and cannon, but accompanied and preceded by swarms of typhus-bearing vermin. Quoted in the Boston Review, April/May 2001 "The choice was clearly open: crush them with vain and unstinted force, or try to give them what they want. These were the only alternatives and most people were unprepared for either. Here indeed was the Irish spectre - horrid and inexorcisable. Writing in The World Crisis and the Aftermath, 1923-31 The unnatural and increasingly rapid growth of the feeble-minded and insane classes, coupled as it is with a steady restriction among all the thrifty, energetic and superior stocks, constitutes a national and race danger which it is impossible to exaggerate... I feel that the source from which the stream of madness is fed should be cut off and sealed up before another year has passed. Churchill to Asquith, 1910 One may dislike Hitler's system and yet admire his patriotic achievement. If our country were defeated, I hope we should find a champion as admirable to restore our courage and lead us back to our place among the nations." From his Great Contemporaries, 1937 You are callous people who want to wreck Europe - you do not care about the future of Europe, you have only your own miserable interests in mind. Addressing the London Polish government at a British Embassy meeting, October 1944 So far as Britain and Russia were concerned, how would it do for you to have 90% of Romania, for us to have 90% of the say in Greece, and go 50/50 about Yugoslavia? Addressing Stalin in Moscow, October 1944 This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States)... this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." Writing on 'Zionism versus Bolshevism' in the Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 1920 Think you should be aiming that at Tony not moi. But as I ve said Churchill rather than Hitler for me. Better the devil you know and all that.

Churchill really was quite a vile man. Good wartime leader perhaps, but other than that ..... nope. Better our vile man than that rather vile man from Germany. Good probably doesn’t describe him in terms of what he did.

Good old Harold. Never did anything wrong, apart from honour the Beatles. Have we got a single political leader in the 20th C & 21st C that we can all agree on? Possibly only Churchill in WWII?

I am not talking about the miners strike. I am talking about all the financial benefits Scargill and friends took from the union. Doesn’t it seem strange that a Union that once had hundred of thousands of members, but now numbers thousands made large donation to an organisation set up by Scargill and friends and run in Paris which hasn’t produced accounts? Wouldn’t it be better that this money helped British miners, and ex-miners? Where did all the donations from various sources end up? Did you watch the programme? Did you notice that the NUM ended up suing Scargill? Why is it that both left and right can’t see the wrong within its heroes when they are found not to be perfect?

Seems to me that Scargill ran his own union into the ground through his own personal agenda.

As many people say I wish I was that fat?! He might be overweight, but fat no. But he’s never been the thinnest of players, the question is how fit or unfit is he?

When who arrived? MON tried to buy him iirc and Newcastle pulled the plug because they couldn’t buy Mark Viduka. Don’t think you can blame MON for Freddie Shepherd, or can we?? Yep, we were going to sign him on deadline day, he was on his way when Newcastle pulled out. So he was 'let slip' Yes Villa let him slip away. Just like we let Bergkamp slip away...

When who arrived? MON tried to buy him iirc and Newcastle pulled the plug because they couldn’t buy Mark Viduka. Don’t think you can blame MON for Freddie Shepherd, or can we??

BBC running a programme on Scargill’s use of money at the NUM Seems that what ever divide of the political line you are on, power does strange things to you. Scargill used Thatcherite policy to try and buy council flat The really sad thing is that the members of the NUM are the one who suffer.

Yet an average championship side who currently own him have no interest in having him do any sort of a job for them. Different managers want different things, and need different personal; its a fairly typical thing. Look at Stephen Ireland; utter tripe for four Villa managers, maybe .1 decent game in how many years. Mark Hughes can’t wait to get him. I am not inclined either way by this signing. But I am not going to damn the manager or say I am not supporting Villa when he comes until I ve actually seen him play. Sure its not getting me excited, but to be honest I haven’t been excited since the days of signing Carew, et al. I ve no idea how much he is costing, and what this has install for the rest of the transfer window. He is obviously the cheap option as we didn’t want to sign that guy from Everton because he was too expensive (I wonder what the toxic legacy of some of Moyes signings is?) To be fair it reminds me a little bit of the Chris Sutton signing. IIRC correctly he had been released by Birmingham City, he came in and did what was wanted of him. A pity we lost him to injury.

Strava is the app to go for; its the market leader, and several VTers are up there. Infact maybe its time we created a VT group???!

Beating Leicester that season away 5-1 was a good game. As was beating Charlton 2-1 with them missing a penalty last minute

Be interesting to do a correlation of who the managers were; lots for Saunders, GT mk I, BFR and even MON. Have to be honest and say I saw a few enjoyable games with GT mk II, Houllier, Lambert and even McLeish. Yes I witnessed the 3-1 victory at Stamford Bridge; talk about unexpected!

Joe Cole is a shadow of the shadow of the shadow of the player who was a starlet aged 3

JLS had that purple patch which peaked at our 2-1 win at Charlton, where de la Cruz had got an express motorbike to the ground after some WC qualification exertions. Samuel scored from a beautiful move down the left side and then they missed a last minute penalty. One of the highlights of DOL’s first season. After the game I made the outrageous claim that Samuel was good enough for England. He promptly got the call up and then played zero minutes. Last seen in Iran. Warnock’s highlight was probably his first appearance in the derby where we had a back line with three debutants. Amazing how quickly it descended into farce, though he did show that Clark is never a left back with the second half cameo against Wolves.

If he continues his upward trajectory, we may have discovered a perfectly ordinary young attacking left back with few defensive qualities. Bring back JLS