Stevo985 Posted March 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) I think 2 more victories will be enough, but that's on the assumption that we'd pick up the odd draw here and there to get us to 39 points. I think that total would see us stay up. Edited March 18, 2013 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Some of you may enjoy playing around with this... you can change the seasons and the weeks to see league tables at the same stage in previous years. This might not be a surprise but having 30 points at this stage of the season doesn't even remotely make us safe from relegation. http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/league-table.html?season=2011-2012&month=MARCH&timelineView=date&toDate=1332633599999&tableView=CURRENT_STANDINGS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2013 I'd forgotten that we only had 38 points at the end of last season. We were pretty lucky weren't we?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) I was optimistic of avoiding the drop until I watched Wigan win (thanks to the ludicrous decision not to send off McMananaman and the handball goal in injury time). I fear for us as unless we are 4 points or more ahead of Wigan going into the final day of the season, with our goal difference they will know that they just have to beat us to stay up. I hope our players can rise to that occasion if it arises, their players have been there many times before. Sunderland are in the mix, but I see them getting wins at home to Stoke and Southampton later in the season, with a couple of draws thrown in which would give them 39, probably enough. There'll be twists and turns, I'm praying Gabby, Benteke and Weimann can fire us to safety, I'm sure lots of teams in the bottom 6 would like that front 3! Edited March 18, 2013 by AvfcTheObsession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I'd forgotten that we only had 38 points at the end of last season. We were pretty lucky weren't we?! Absolutely we were, but it felt different because we got to mid 30 points with about 9 or 10 games left and then just capitulated. If the season was 39 games long we would have been relegated. One or two people here who are against Lambert have stated we were better under McLeish but the underlying fact is that this team is on the way up whereas McLeish's was well and truly on the way down. I'm sure if he was still here this season we would have about 20 points by now with no light at the end of the tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamdog Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I've still got hopes for Wigan's demise despite yesterday's result. If Man United play like they did against Reading then Sunderland can definitely take something off them - it would be hilarious if MO'N contrived to relegate them. I think we're playing better than we were this time last season and we've got goals in us. I'm cautiously optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I've still got hopes for Wigan's demise despite yesterday's result. If Man United play like they did against Reading then Sunderland can definitely take something off them - it would be hilarious if MO'N contrived to relegate them. I think we're playing better than we were this time last season and we've got goals in us. I'm cautiously optimistic. If Sunderland can take something off Man U then so can we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted March 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2013 last season, 17th and 18th had 28 points and joint -19 GD after 30 games, when 37 points was enough for 17th place (18th had 36). This season, us and Wigan may be joint 30 points after 30 games, so it looks like a projected 38-39 points could be needed. I think Wigan will escape again, but Sunderland will go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMushroom Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I've still got hopes for Wigan's demise despite yesterday's result. If Man United play like they did against Reading then Sunderland can definitely take something off them - it would be hilarious if MO'N contrived to relegate them. I think we're playing better than we were this time last season and we've got goals in us. I'm cautiously optimistic. If Sunderland can take something off Man U then so can we. In theory, yes. But i still have no confidence in our defenders to keep anyone from scoring, let alone Manure. You would think they would have improved by this late in the season, but they ae still making fundimental mistakes both collectively and individually. Now the Midfield is beginning to tick, and with Delphs return, they may start getting more protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I've still got hopes for Wigan's demise despite yesterday's result. If Man United play like they did against Reading then Sunderland can definitely take something off them - it would be hilarious if MO'N contrived to relegate them. I think we're playing better than we were this time last season and we've got goals in us. I'm cautiously optimistic. If Sunderland can take something off Man U then so can we. In theory, yes. But i still have no confidence in our defenders to keep anyone from scoring, let alone Manure. You would think they would have improved by this late in the season, but they ae still making fundimental mistakes both collectively and individually. Now the Midfield is beginning to tick, and with Delphs return, they may start getting more protection? Thats the worry for me. Despite the recent improvements, the defence looks almost as bad as ever - if it doesn't improve that will undermine us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2013 Despite the recent improvements, the defence looks almost as bad as everDo you really believe that?The defence is as bad as ever?I'll concede that the defence is hardly awe inspiring. But it's a shit tonne better than it has been at times this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Despite the recent improvements, the defence looks almost as bad as ever Do you really believe that? The defence is as bad as ever? I'll concede that the defence is hardly awe inspiring. But it's a shit tonne better than it has been at times this season. Read carefully - *almost* as bad as ever ......ie likley to concede - don't see us winning many 1-0 Edited March 18, 2013 by smetrov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Despite the recent improvements, the defence looks almost as bad as everDo you really believe that?The defence is as bad as ever?I'll concede that the defence is hardly awe inspiring. But it's a shit tonne better than it has been at times this season. Read carefully - *almost* as bad as ever ......ie likley to concede - don't see us winning many 1-0Why has our goal difference improved then if its the same as its always been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 38 pts might have been enough, but with our goal difference we will need 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Why has our goal difference improved then if its the same as its always been? Because we're scoring more now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Despite the recent improvements, the defence looks almost as bad as ever Do you really believe that? The defence is as bad as ever? I'll concede that the defence is hardly awe inspiring. But it's a shit tonne better than it has been at times this season. Read carefully - *almost* as bad as ever ......ie likley to concede - don't see us winning many 1-0 Why has our goal difference improved then if its the same as its always been? Its only improved by +3 - 3 narrow victories - still no clean sheets - whatever - the defence is still very much our weak spot, that could send us down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2013 Despite the recent improvements, the defence looks almost as bad as ever Do you really believe that? The defence is as bad as ever? I'll concede that the defence is hardly awe inspiring. But it's a shit tonne better than it has been at times this season. Read carefully - *almost* as bad as ever ......ie likley to concede - don't see us winning many 1-0 Fair enough, I did miss the "almost"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 One important thing to note, Lambert did not get carried away by our win and stated we have a long way to go to be safe, there will be alot more twists and turns for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted March 18, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2013 Not much of a change from last time through for our chancesQPR: 59% 20th, 31% 19th, 7% 18th, 3% stay upReading: 38% 20th, 45% 19th, 12% 18th, 6% stay upVilla: 1% 20th, 10% 19th, 34% 18th, 55% stay upWigan: 2% 20th, 11% 19th, 26% 18th, 61% stay upSunderland: 1% 19th, 12% 18th, 87% stay upSouthampton: 1% 19th, 4% 18th, 95% stay upWest Ham: 2% 18th, 98% stay upNorwich 1% 18th, 99% stay upNewcastle: 1% 18th, 99% stay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 What the hell is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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