tonyh29 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Following the Uk's late entry to the 20th century with HS2 there is now talk about a new airport at Thames Estuary Libe dems are against it , which straight away should be a good enough reason for being "for" it but what do people feel about a project like this ? a 24-hour, four-runways airport, with each runway 2.5 miles long and with facilities to cope with 150 million passengers a year. or or should we just look to expand Heathrow with a third runway and paper over the cracks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Being dubbed "Boris Island" I'm all for it, would be a good boost to the Construction Industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 18, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2012 Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Lord Foster has already looked into it and done mockups. He specialises in doing the unthinkable and often achieves majestic results. It's a bit pie in the sky tbh. Saying that Heathrow is croaking on it's last legs. People are against that so veremently they tried to even suggest a super airport near Rugby which was laughable. Best idea is to invest in more regional airports like BHX, MAN and NCL. then if London is STILL croaking at the seems then you look for an idea like "boris Island". I believe if they create that then Heathrow would cease to exist? I think for it to happen either Gatwick or Heathrow (preferably both) need to go adios. Heathrow less so because Gatwick is sooooo shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 BHX is already getting a second runway and big infrastructure growth Work is already underway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Being selfish - which ever option leads to an increased choice of places to fly to from BHX! I live a steady 20 minute drive from BHX (close enough for family or friends to drop us off and pick us up) and yet even holidaying twice a year for the last 10 years, I've hardly ever been able to fly from BHX (just twice from memory). Instead I end up lugging my family and luggage all the way to crappy Gatwick, Liverpool or at best Manchester. :x Without being selfish - I don't know enough detail on the options to comment yet, so in contradiction to the VillaTalk ethos, I'll hold fire until I know what I'm talking about. :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I've just skimmed through the mayors report, not once does it mention build cost or funding but I've just done a few rough estimates and I don't think there'll be much change from £50 Billion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I've just skimmed through the mayors report, not once does it mention build cost or funding but I've just done a few rough estimates and I don't think there'll be much change from £50 Billion I'll build it for £49bn! 50% up front of course. :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 how much is heathrow and gatwick site worth in real estate though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 We need HRW & GAT on top of Boris Island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 how much is heathrow and gatwick site worth in real estate though? Virtually nothing with all those low flying aircraft! :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 18, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2012 I've just skimmed through the mayors report, not once does it mention build cost or funding but I've just done a few rough estimates and I don't think there'll be much change from £50 Billion Show your working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 how much is heathrow and gatwick site worth in real estate though? Virtually nothing with all those low flying aircraft! :winkold: lol yeah but remember gatwick and heathrow won't exist. but the worlds biggest housing estates would be on both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 how much is heathrow and gatwick site worth in real estate though? Virtually nothing with all those low flying aircraft! :winkold: lol yeah but remember gatwick and heathrow won't exist. but the worlds biggest housing estates would be on both I did, hence the :winkold: I'd imagine the land would be worth hundreds of millions if not a billion, just not much of a dent in the £50bn* cost. * subject to CI's working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Apparently masses of birds hang out there in winter so you end up with birds going through all the jet engines. It is so far off though that it probably doesn't matter at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyjsg Posted January 18, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2012 Not sure either way to be honest, Heathrow is certainly creaking. I still though dont see why they dont use Northolt as the third runway for Heathrow?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Reclaiming the land will be over £10billion Services and infrastructure £15billion Runways and Buildings £10 billion Systems / Security etc £10billion Further breakdown available on request Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 what about a mass of small regional airports? fire up the likes of coventry, oxford, plymouth and loads of other smaller airports and offer short haul flights from there? Coventry could have worked if it wasn't for planning rejections. It was a great airport with short security queues and passport control and the proximity to where we lived was great. I think if the likes of Oxford, Cambridge and even Wellesbourne airports were able to offer weekly services to popular destinations like Canaries, Balearics, Malaga, Dalaman etc during summer/winter then they could do quite well. more often than not it's councils blocking any kind of infastructure. Thomson couldn't be arsed with the hassle of pushing for a decent airport at coventry. I flew from there twice and both planes were pretty full indeed. not bad considering that example had BHX less than 20 minutes away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 It's the long haul flights that are the issue and the new breed of super plane will never be accommodated in regional airports BHX will be decent when expanded and we'll have the crews from the likes Emitates, Qantas and Thai laying over in Solihull hotels again :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 It's the long haul flights that are the issue and the new breed of super plane will never be accommodated in regional airports BHX will be decent when expanded and we'll have the crews from the likes Emitates, Qantas and Thai laying over in Solihull hotels again :-) :winkold: Amongst other airlines, it's BA I'm interested in getting to BHX, instead they seem fixated on Heathrow, Heathrow and LHR. :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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