Artetasgirl Posted September 18, 2009 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2009 Jeeeezus, read my post above. I said your entitled to your opinion, but I just think it's unfair to write off his chances in this league before he's even had a chance to prove himself. Why is it unfair to him? I don't know the guy my view on him doesn't affect him in anyway it is purely my opinion which in time will be proved right or wrong. Its certainly not unfair to him. Please do not tell me you do not make judgements on players suitability to play in this division before they have actually do so. I'm actually not bothered either way if he proves himself or not all I did was express an opinion which is what the game is all about. I would say of some players that I don't believe they would be suited to such and such league, but I don't write them off before they had a chance to show it. They way you put it as "he would never get away with playing centre back" made it a lot stronger statement than "" I don't believe he is good enough to play CB in this league cos it doesn't suit him but we will see" Anyway, let it rest, I'm not gonna argue with you, of all people, about something so trivial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 we all know that Heitinga is going to get a cheeky goal against us now because of this debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 18, 2009 Moderator Share Posted September 18, 2009 I would say of some players that I don't believe they would be suited to such and such league, but I don't write them off before they had a chance to show it. They way you put it as "he would never get away with playing centre back" made it a lot stronger statement than "" I don't believe he is good enough to play CB in this league cos it doesn't suit him but we will see" Fair point my wording does read that way. Anyway, let it rest, I'm not gonna argue with you, of all people, about something so trivial. Agreed L hope your luck turns tomorrow I have a feeling it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colleh Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Why do people want Everton to do well? Their fans are proper rocket polishers. I remember them saying they wanted Ashley Young's legs broken last year. And they never stop whinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colleh Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 And they're scouse. And they report players to the police. And their derby is a friendly bore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 18, 2009 Moderator Share Posted September 18, 2009 Why do people want Everton to do well? Their fans are proper rocket polishers. I remember them saying they wanted Ashley Young's legs broken last year. And they never stop whinging. Sure Everton have a few idiotic fans but what club doesn't? I know we do and I've seen a few things on here by Villa fans that I'm sure other clubs fans would take exception too. Everton though are a club I respect managed by a manager I respect even if he did have a bit of a moan after our games last season. They are a good, decent, proper football club that like Villa and one of the few clubs out there I don't harbour a deep dislike for simply because they have always conducted themselves well. They aren't a Spurs, Newcastle or a club of that ilk and even though they are a rival of ours I would be quite happy to see them do well so long as they finish below us. As for the fans despite what a few idiots write on a message board about Young when you meet them in person they are a fairly decent bunch, I spend enough time in Liverpool to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Everton as a club are very hard to dislike. Sure they have some players I can't stand and their fans really piss me off at times, but they're a very good club with tradition and history. They deserve alot of respect, unlike their more succesful rivals from accross the park who're a disgrace of a club and have been for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artetasgirl Posted September 18, 2009 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2009 Agreed L hope your luck turns tomorrow I have a feeling it will. Preferably I would hope our luck starts turning Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 19, 2009 Moderator Share Posted September 19, 2009 Agreed L hope your luck turns tomorrow I have a feeling it will. Preferably I would hope our luck starts turning Sunday I was meaning your Sat night :winkold: Smart arse lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artetasgirl Posted September 19, 2009 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2009 Ok, so a guy from a well known Everton forum says that there will be an interesting "investigative report" in tomorrows NOTW, which isn't good but will cause debate on all the Everton forums. We shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heystally! Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Ok, so a guy from a well known Everton forum says that there will be an interesting "investigative report" in tomorrows NOTW, which isn't good but will cause debate on all the Everton forums. We shall see... Any clues on the Everton forums you visit AG? Everton don't really seem to be the kind of club involved in scandal or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artetasgirl Posted September 20, 2009 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2009 Ok, so a guy from a well known Everton forum says that there will be an interesting "investigative report" in tomorrows NOTW, which isn't good but will cause debate on all the Everton forums. We shall see... Any clues on the Everton forums you visit AG? Everton don't really seem to be the kind of club involved in scandal or anything like that. If it's what I think it is, it's a major letdown. Built up to be a huge thing and all it seems to be is that Moyes refused to back Liverpool's bid as a World Cup 2018 host city because of the ongoing feud between Liverpool City council and Everton FC...ffs I thought it was gonna be some huge scandal or something too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heystally! Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 If it's what I think it is, it's a major letdown. Built up to be a huge thing and all it seems to be is that Moyes refused to back Liverpool's bid as a World Cup 2018 host city because of the ongoing feud between Liverpool City council and Everton FC...ffs I thought it was gonna be some huge scandal or something too Haha oh dear. I'm sure Everton fans everywhere will be crying I'd be surprised if Liverpool wasn't used if England got the World Cup bid. Unfortunately I think Anfield would get used and Goodison might not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 20, 2009 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2009 I'd be surprised if Liverpool wasn't used if England got the World Cup bid. Unfortunately I think Anfield would get used and Goodison might not. Isn't Goodison's pitch not dimensionally-compliant for a FIFA-sanctioned international? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artetasgirl Posted September 21, 2009 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2009 I'd be surprised if Liverpool wasn't used if England got the World Cup bid. Unfortunately I think Anfield would get used and Goodison might not. Isn't Goodison's pitch not dimensionally-compliant for a FIFA-sanctioned international? I'm sure it is, it's one of the biggest pitches in the Premier League! Anyway, I already guessed we wouldn't be used but it is based on the new stadiums rather than Anfield and Goodison I think... We have offered the use of our training facilities too, which are top class and have been taken to be copied by various international teams for their training bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 21, 2009 VT Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2009 Isn't Goodison's pitch not dimensionally-compliant for a FIFA-sanctioned international? I'm sure it is, it's one of the biggest pitches in the Premier League! OK, I thought FIFA had maximum dimensions. Actually, Goodison's pitch is too short to stage A internationals: 105m is now required by IFAB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Biggest? I've always thought Goodison was one of the smallest, if not the smallest in the league. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artetasgirl Posted September 21, 2009 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2009 Biggest? I've always thought Goodison was one of the smallest, if not the smallest in the league. :? Nope, just looks small. 1. Manchester City, City of Manchester Stadium, 116 x 77 Yards, 8932 2. Manchester United, Old Trafford, 116 x 76 yards, 8816 3. Blackburn Rovers, Ewood Park, 115 x 76 yards, 8740 4. Everton, Goodison Park, 112 x 78 yards, 8736 5. Wolves, Molineux, 115 x 75 yards, 8625 6. Aston Villa, Villa Park, 114 x 75 yards, 8550 7. Hull City, K C Stadium, 115 x 74 yards, 8510 8. Arsenal, Emirates Stadium, 114 x 74 yards, 8436 9. Sunderland, Stadium of Light, 114 x 74 yards, 8436 10. Wigan Athletic, JJB Stadium, 114 x 74 yards, 8436 11. Portsmouth, Fratton Park, 115 x 73 yards, 8395 12. Chelsea, Stamford Bridge, 110 x 75 yards, 8250 13. Fulham, Craven Cottage, 110 x 75 yards, 8250 14. Liverpool, Anfield, 110 x 75 yards, 8250 15. Birmingham City, St. Andrews, 110 x 74 yards, 8140 16. Tottenham Hotspur, White Hart Lane, 110 x 73 yards, 8030 17. Bolton Wanderers, Reebok Stadium, 110 x 72 yards, 7920 18. Burnley, Turf Moor, 112 x 70 yards, 7840 19. West Ham United, Boleyn Ground, 110 x 70 yards, 7700 20. Stoke, Britannia Stadium, 110×70 yards, 7700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artetasgirl Posted September 21, 2009 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2009 Isn't Goodison's pitch not dimensionally-compliant for a FIFA-sanctioned international? I'm sure it is, it's one of the biggest pitches in the Premier League! OK, I thought FIFA had maximum dimensions. Actually, Goodison's pitch is too short to stage A internationals: 105m is now required by IFAB. Well, as I say, the bid is based on the new grounds anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Got a soft spot for Everton having been in the city as a student for the past 4 years. I can't stand the red side though. I've always found Evertonians to be decent, bar a couple of morons, but you get them at every club. It's good to see them kicking on again now, and we will no doubt be competing for the same place come the end of the season. Similar club to Villa with a good history and good fan base. Shame they haven't got the investment as we seem to as I reckon Moyes would do an even better job than he is doing now. Won't hear me say a bad word, nothing but good experience from the blue half of Merseyside. Glad they sold Lescott though - he loved playing against us! At least now he plays for City who always beat us anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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